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    This is post https://www.excelfox.com/forum/showt...ll=1#post24163 https://www.excelfox.com/forum/showt...age3#post24163




    Some Extra notes to go with this main forum post
    https://eileenslounge.com/viewtopic....ffd8b7#p317533

    That forum post is one of those increasing occurrences recently of a one off post answering a question. There relevance to the Thread and their quality varies a lot. This one was fairly relevant but more of a quick example files perhaps picked up from somewhere, and I doubt we will ever see the OP again and I doubt he knows much about what he posted.
    But it gave me a chance to try and get some Class ideas of mine a bit better understood


    It is probably helpful to download the uploaded file, and have it open it in Excel, whilst working through the next few posts





    First what is it all about
    This appears to be an example of my suggested second of two main areas that class things may be used …_ 2 The area where I have mostly seen …… This usually involves tackling the area of WithEvents ….


    I started with a new virgin simple .xls file, and put a Class Module in it
    Add a Class Module.JPG

    I went through copying across your ( OP SamPi ) coding and changing it a bit and adding some 'comments to help me explain what was going on.
    (By the way, What actually happens (should happen) is that …
    Provided you first open the main file with all the class stuff in it, ( that was your (OP SamPi) OpenExcelFile.xlsm , and it is now my WatchMyFileOpenings.xls), then after that , if you open a file with the name test.csv , then, a message box should pop up and tell you about it )


    First the Class module stuff.
    This is my slightly modified version of your (OP SamPi) coding put inside the Class module.
    I gave the class module the name FileOpenWatcher , but that does not mean much. Initially, before we put text of coding into it, its just like a blank sheet of paper.
    Finally as below, it’s not much more. It is just like text on a bit of paper. Whilst not completely incorrect, it might be dangerous to envisage this as a template. This might cause one to think of it as a thing to be copied and used over and over again. Later with hindsight, this conception can be misleading. It is better to think of it as some notes in your pocket on a piece of paper, that you work from to make something over and over again. Think of there being other text notes and information, which we personally do not concern ourselves with, and when we use all the information, the text of the coding is just one thing we use. Generally it is a bad idea to consider copying of a class or coding in a class module. It can be misleading to the actual underlying concepts.
    The class module is generally designed to be used over and over again, in the similar way that a function is. In this example we only use it once. Here is the full text. Perhaps that text could be thought better conceptually as like that on a Stamp


    Class module, FileOpenWatcher: ( https://i.postimg.cc/TPPmLX2K/File-O...ode-module.jpg ) of WatchMyFileOpenings.xls
    Code:
    ' This is not coding that will ever be done. It is like a stamp from which we effectively make the coding to put in an actual class object module:  This is a Class module. Not an actual class object module
    Option Explicit
    Public WithEvents ExApp As Excel.Application ' This makes ExApp a variable/ object that some how is like a running Excel, and also the   WithEvents  means it has access to all those  codings that it has that kick off when something happens
    
    ' This and the next macro is the text of coding we need to tell us if we open the file "test.csv"
    Private Sub ExApp_WorkbookOpen(ByVal Wb As Workbook) ' This will become a property in a final Instanciated object, amnd I intend to use it
    Dim s As String
     Let s = Wb.Name
        If s = "test.csv" Then Call MyMacro
    End Sub
    Sub MyMacro() ' This is available also in intellisense to a final instanciated object, although in this example I will not use it, - its calles from the routine above. Splitting the two is not done for any particular reason
    MsgBox Prompt:="You just opened  test.csv"
    End Sub

    That coding is not actual coding that will ever be done. It is like a blue print, or a Stamp , from which an actual object module will be made with that coding in it, (by an instanciate later in coding in another code module –
    In other words, something looking just like that, could be considered to appear, Stamped out as it were, by executing the following code lines
    Dim MeWatcher As FileOpenWatcher
    Private Sub Workbook_Open() ' This is done when this file opens
    Set MeWatcher = New
    We must image this appearing, as we do not see it)
    The full coding(text) window shown above is in a true Class module, as I tried to explain in my previous post , so its just like text on a piece of paper, and on its own pretty useless.

    Lets explain the build up of that text (which will later be coding):
    The very first line, Public WithEvents ExApp As Excel.Application , does something along the lines of making the variable, ExApp ,somehow be of a type like the Excel you are using, but not specifically the actual one you are using.
    The extra WithEvents means it gets all the usual Excel event codings so we can tap into them, ( and for convenience, after you make this line we get them extra things listed in the drop down list of the Class module
    WithEvents of the Excel application.JPG

    We have chosen the event coding that kicks in when a workbook is opened, as that is what we need for our particular example
    As generally with event coding, it can be considered that it is always there and runs when the event occurs ( the event of opening of a workbook in this example ), but we can add coding into it, so that this added coding also kicks in when the event occurs ( the event of opening of a workbook in this example )

    In this case the coding is fairly simple, to do a message box pop up, when a file opens with the name test.csv
    Code:
    ' This and the next macro is the sort of coding we need to tell us if we open the file "test.csv"
    Private Sub ExApp_WorkbookOpen(ByVal Wb As Workbook) ' This will become a property in a final Instanciated object, amnd I intend to use it
    Dim s As String
     Let s = Wb.Name
        If s = "test.csv" Then Call MyMacro
    End Sub
    Sub MyMacro() ' This is available also in intellisense to a final instanciated object, although in this example I will not use it, - its calles from the routine above. Splitting the two is not done for any particular reason
    MsgBox Prompt:="You just opened  test.csv"
    End Sub
    

    So that’s it for the class module. It’s only half the full story. The second half is in the next post

    A last important thing again to remember: This is just like a piece of paper with a text of coding on it that will never run itself.
    We may "copy" that text and put it somewhere so as to use as "real" coding to be run.
    The "copy", is effectively done by these 2 sort of code lines later,
    Dim MeWatcher As FileOpenWatcher
    Private Sub Workbook_Open() ' This is done when this file opens
    Set MeWatcher = New

    The use of "copy" is perhaps a bit unwise, better is to imagine it stamped out

    With that we are finally doing is instantiating: A class describes the variables, properties, procedures, and events of an object (but a class is not an object itself; an object comes into existence when a class is instantiated)
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    This is post https://www.excelfox.com/forum/showt...ll=1#post24165 https://www.excelfox.com/forum/showt...age3#post24165






    So I have added text to the existing text of an available _WorkbookOpen coding, and that text is identical to the text of the sort of coding that would do the business of checking to see if I opened test.csv , and tells me about it if I did/do
    But important to remember That the text in coding format in last post is not coding that will ever be done. It is just the blue print text , like text on a piece of paper, or on a stamp
    We need to make an actual object, A class object module, and put a copy of this coding in it. Better said, we want to stamp that text out where it will become VBA source coding
    That is this next bit




    Make the my watcher thing
    It is convenient for this thing to be made when I open my main file, WatchMyFileOpenings.xls
    So, just for that reason, I put the following coding in the ThisWorkbook code module of my main file, WatchMyFileOpenings.xls


    ThisWorkbook: code module of WatchMyFileOpenings.xls
    Code:
    Option Explicit
    Dim MeWatcher As FileOpenWatcher ' This must go here, not in the coding below, or else the variable will not exist after the coding below ends
    Private Sub Workbook_Open()  ' This is done when this file opens
     Set MeWatcher = New FileOpenWatcher    '   Make the object  MeWatcher  which is something like a  running Excel
     Set MeWatcher.ExApp = Excel.Application '  I think this makes the obkect,  MeWatcher,  the actual running Excel
    End Sub
    ThisWorkbook code module.JPG


    The main thing will be in the variable I choose to call MeWatcher In other words that MeWatcher is the variable pointing to an object thing which actually will be somewhere in existence, monitoring when a file might be opened, and if that happens, it checks to see if it is test.csv , and if it is, it tells me with a pop up message box

    Within the coding that kicks in when I open the file, WatchMyFileOpenings.xls , the two lines make that object MeWatcher
    First Set MeWatcher = New FileOpenWatcher makes the object of the type we want, but its missing a few things. A Parallel could perhaps be a worksheet object, but with no specific Name, position, etc.,so we are not quite there, and we would not yet see, for example, a worksheet code module appear in the VB Editor left explorer window, or maybe we would, but it would look empty
    At the moment the object is a sort of Excel Application type, but not a specific one .
    The next line Set MeWatcher.ExApp = Excel.Application , will, I think, do the final job, making our actual running Excel the final object in the variable MeWatcher, or perhaps more accurately said , the application in that variable is the final object in the variable MeWatcher
    What effectively then happens could be regarded as a class object code module being made and appearing looking somewhat similar to the worksheets object code modules or ThisWorkbook as seen in the VB Editor left explorer windows, like this , and that has a copy of the Class module coding in it.

    So we could reasonably perceive that we have something like this appearing, which if it did, would take a position and "level" in the explorer view or OOP hierarchy, in the VB Editor , similar to that of the worksheets and the ThisWorkbook things
    This is what it could be perceived to look like, just a perception suggestion from me


    Object module, MeWatcher ( perception suggestion )
    Code:
    ' This is , or can reasonably be perceived to be, the "real" coding that is done
    Option Explicit
    Public WithEvents ExApp As Excel.Application ' This makes ExApp a variable/ object that some how is like a running Excel, and also the   WithEvents  means it has access to all those  codings that it has that kick off when something happens
    
    ' This and the next macro is the sort of coding we need to tell us if we open the file "test.csv"
    Private Sub ExApp_WorkbookOpen(ByVal Wb As Workbook) ' This will become a property in a final Instanciated object, amnd I intend to use it
    Dim s As String
     Let s = Wb.Name
        If s = "test.csv" Then Call MyMacro
    End Sub
    Sub MyMacro() ' This is available also in intellisense to a final instanciated object, although in this example I will not use it, - its calles from the routine above. Splitting the two is not done for any particular reason
    MsgBox Prompt:="You just opened  test.csv"
    End Sub
    


    That is , or can reasonably be perceived to be, the "real" coding that is done. And by virtue of the code line somewhere else of , Set MeWatcher.ExApp = Excel.Application , the variable , or object, MeWatcher , is effectively my running Excel

    Unfortunately, that does not happen, or rather it does, or could be perceived to happen, but Microsoft just neglected to make it appear for us, so we must imagine it does.

    At this point we have an object, MeWatcher, of the sort, FileOpenWatcher , which we want, which is one that is a bit like a running Excel.
    That last code line, Set MeWatcher.ExApp = Excel.Application makes the variable in our new class object code module, (the one we can’t see), ExApp the actual running Excel

    That all takes a few careful readings through to get it


    The point is with all this class stuff, is that it is just that little bit more complicated such that you must think a few things carefully through to understand. A simple short explanation often does more harm than good, JIMHO, since, for example, telling you as people often do, that the worksheets code module is a class module , is wrong…. At least I think….. for now: So far, - the best experts in this field, won’t comment on this statement…. and I have asked many times… well actually, not quite, I am tangling with Mike about it currently from about here …. https://eileenslounge.com/viewtopic....317564#p317564
    See also the next post



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    Here are some notes from the discussions started just after the last post, specifically these discussions, here:
    https://eileenslounge.com/viewtopic....317564#p317564
    https://eileenslounge.com/viewtopic....317565#p317565
    https://eileenslounge.com/viewtopic....317573#p317573
    https://eileenslounge.com/viewtopic....317574#p317574
    https://eileenslounge.com/viewtopic....317579#p317579
    https://eileenslounge.com/viewtopic....317582#p317582
    https://eileenslounge.com/viewtopic....317583#p317583
    https://eileenslounge.com/viewtopic....317591#p317591
    https://eileenslounge.com/viewtopic....317598#p317598
    https://eileenslounge.com/viewtopic....317606#p317606



    Whilst letting all those discussion go through my head, and many more beside, I realised along the way, that in fact I could do the example of the last two posts above, without a class module. So in the next few post I does that

    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnxwq2aGJRbjOo_MO54oaHA
    https://eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?p=320960#p320960
    https://eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?p=320957#p3209573
    https://eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?p=318868#p318868
    https://eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?p=318311#p318311
    https://eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?p=318302#p318302
    https://eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?p=317704#p317704
    https://eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?p=317704#p317704
    https://eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?p=317857#p317857
    https://eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?p=317541#p317541
    https://eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?p=317520#p317520
    https://eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?p=317510#p317510
    https://eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?p=317547#p317547
    https://eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?p=317573#p317573
    https://eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?p=317574#p317574
    https://eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?p=317582#p317582
    https://eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?p=317583#p317583
    https://eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?p=317605#p317605
    https://eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?p=316935#p316935
    https://eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?p=317030#p317030
    https://eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?p=317030#p317030
    https://eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?p=317014#p317014
    https://eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?p=316940#p316940
    https://eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?p=316927#p316927
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnxwq2aGJRbjOo_MO54oaHA
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    Background to getting a solution without a class module
    ( Background to getting non class module solution to this solution
    https://eileenslounge.com/viewtopic....317547#p317547
    https://www.excelfox.com/forum/showt...age3#post24163
    https://www.excelfox.com/forum/showt...age3#post24165
    )

    Lets review what we did in the two posts using the Class module


    We inserted a Class module. We put text, in coding form, into/ onto it. Think of that code module and text now as text on a stamp The first main line of that text,
    __| Public WithEvents ExApp As Excel.Application
    , is of the form of coding which declares a variable of the type to point to a memory location capable of dealing the Excel Application. In Layman terms it can be thought of as somehow organising something to "be" like the Excel we are using. The WithEvents makes available to that "thing", or would if it was actual coding, the event coding associated with Excel.
    From those event codings, we are interested finally in the event of when a file is opened. So the next text below is that of coding that organises that a message box pops up if a file by the name of test.csv is opened
    Code:
    ' This and the next macro is the text of coding we need to tell us if we open the file "test.csv"
    Public Sub ExApp_WorkbookOpen(ByVal Wb As Workbook) ' This will become a property in a final Instanciated object, and I intend to use it
    Dim s As String
     Let s = Wb.Name
        If s = "test.csv" Then Call MyMacro
    End Sub
    Sub MyMacro() ' This is available also in intellisense to a final instanciated object, although in this example I will not use it, - its calls from the routine above. Splitting the two is not done for any particular reason
    MsgBox Prompt:="You just opened  test.csv"
    End Sub
    



    Here below is the final complete text of the Class module "Stamp"

    Class module, FileOpenWatcher
    Code:
    ' This is not coding that will ever be done. It is like a stamp from which we effectively make the coding to put in an actual class object module:  This is a Class module. Not an actual class object module
    Option Explicit
    Public WithEvents ExApp As Excel.Application  ' This makes ExApp a variable/ object that some how is like a running Excel, and also the   WithEvents  means it has access to all those  codings that it has that kick off when something happens
    
    ' This and the next macro is the text of coding we need to tell us if we open the file "test.csv"
    Private Sub ExApp_WorkbookOpen(ByVal Wb As Workbook) ' This will become a property in a final Instanciated object, and I intend to use it
    Dim s As String
     Let s = Wb.Name
        If s = "test.csv" Then Call MyMacro
    End Sub
    Sub MyMacro() ' This is available also in intellisense to a final instanciated object, although in this example I will not use it, - its calles from the routine above. Splitting the two is not done for any particular reason
    MsgBox Prompt:="You just opened  test.csv"
    End Sub
    
    One advantage of this class way of doing it is that this stamp of text can be used over and over again, along similar lines to why we use functions. Using the idea of the Stamp, this stamp is effectively used by these instanciating code lines:
    Dim MeWatcher As FileOpenWatcher
    Private Sub Workbook_Open()
    Set MeWatcher = New FileOpenWatcher


    In other words an instanciation is done, then , as a result of doing that instanciation , MeWatcher becomes a variable pointing to a thing/ object capable of doing something when a file is opened. I would argue that we have something, which we cannot see, but which could be regarded as associated with the object pointed to by MeWatcher. Another Layman perception idea would be that we have this invisible object code module with the name MeWatcher, looking like this https://i.postimg.cc/wM2Wn8zT/Object...suggestion.jpg

    Our task in the next posts is to do the same without a use of a class module.
    So let’s think about this
    …..
    According to the Alan theory of class modules and object modules, after the instanciation, we are left with an object module, which can be thought of as identical looking to the text of the class module and it looks like that perception suggestion, although we cant see it, not like what as we can see similar things like the instanciated ThisWorkbook object code module and the worksheets object code modules.
    Here below is that perception suggestion again.


    Object module, MeWatcher ( perception suggestion )
    Code:
    ' This is , or can reasonably be perceived to be, the "real" coding that is done
    Option Explicit
    Public WithEvents ExApp As Excel.Application ' This makes ExApp a variable/ object that some how is like a running Excel, and also the   WithEvents  means it has access to all those  codings that it has that kick off when something happens
    
    ' This and the next macro is the sort of coding we need to tell us if we open the file "test.csv"
    Private Sub ExApp_WorkbookOpen(ByVal Wb As Workbook) ' This will become a property in a final Instanciated object, amnd I intend to use it
    Dim s As String
     Let s = Wb.Name
        If s = "test.csv" Then Call MyMacro
    End Sub
    Sub MyMacro() ' This is available also in intellisense to a final instanciated object, although in this example I will not use it, - its calles from the routine above. Splitting the two is not done for any particular reason
    MsgBox Prompt:="You just opened  test.csv"
    End Sub
    
    That is , or can reasonably be perceived to be, the "real" coding that is done, (or perhaps more accurately the VBA source coding used finally in the compiled coding which actually runs). And by virtue of the code line somewhere else of , Set MeWatcher.ExApp = Excel.Application , the variable , or object, MeWatcher , is effectively my running Excel


    Now here is the key to getting the task done
    As I just said, …
    Quote Originally Posted by DocAElstein View Post
    According to the Alan theory of class modules and object modules, after the instanciation, we are left with an object module, which can be thought of as identical looking to the text of the class module and it looks like ….. although we cant see it, as we can see things like the instanciated ThisWorkbook object code module and the worksheets object code modules
    Assuming, as my theory does, that the perceived object module from an instantiation from a custom class and the ThisWorkbook object code module and the worksheets object code modules are very similar things, possibly even from some object module class then their syntax, and OLE Automation entry protocols will be consistent without conflicts in any dependency chains allowing assynchronous gateways to the event codings. In layman terms this means
    _ wot works when written in our class modules after instanciation
    _ does as well in the worksheets and ThisWorkbook code modules

    If we do a quick experiment with a ThisWorkbook module we see perhaps that we may be on to something…
    Here is the default event coding available
    https://i.postimg.cc/wvydVYRq/Defaul...ook-coding.jpg
    Default ThisWorkbook Workbook coding.jpg

    Now if we add one of this WithEvents declarations, it looks promising
    https://i.postimg.cc/k5hmKg4Y/Added-...ion-coding.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/Jzxm7qWL/Added-...kbook-Open.jpg
    Added WithEvents ThisWorkbook Excel Application coding.JPG Added WithEvents ThisWorkbook Excel Application coding including Workbook_Open.JPG

    What I am saying here is that the WithEvents declaration seems to result in the same extra options in the dropdowns of the ThisWorkbook module as we have seen appearing in the class module dropdowns after the same WithEvents declaration.

    We see the same in any worksheet module….
    Before, as default
    https://i.postimg.cc/hvC2b0JT/Worksh...nt-codings.jpg
    Worksheets default event codings.jpg

    , after adding an WithEvents declaration
    https://i.postimg.cc/j54gCTt8/Worksh...ith-Events.jpg
    Worksheets module Event codings after adding a WithEvents.jpg


    So , based on my theories, the main thing to think about to get a solution without a class module, is two things:-
    _1) Given that we have already have modules which I suggest cone from the same or similar strain/ origin/ class as my perception suggestion , then we can simply put the coding of the perception suggestion in any of the object modules.
    _2) We can forget the instantiation: The object variable used will not be the MeWatcher of my perception suggestion object, but the name of the object module used.


    So, we will do that in the next two posts.
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    Solution without Class module using ThisWorkbook object code module

    This post describes what to do. Justification is given in the last post

    We need to
    _(i) Put the coding (which is given by either the text from the class module , or the coding from the perceptions suggestion ), in the ThisWorkbook code module
    _(ii) Remove the two line instanciation coding.
    ( _(iii) We still need to assign the WithEvents of the Excel application object variable to the current running Excel )


    Lets do the last two (ii) and (iii), first
    We had this, in the ThisWorkbook code module, where we conveniently had the instanciation added to the available [FONT=Courier New]Workbook_Open()[7FONT] coding, to get, in effect, perceptionally speaking, the VBA source code which we don’t see


    Object module, MeWatcher
    Code:
    Dim MeWatcher As FileOpenWatcher ' This must go here, not in the coding below, or else the variable will not exist after the coding below ends
    Private Sub Workbook_Open()      ' This is done when this file opens
     Set MeWatcher = New FileOpenWatcher    '   Make the object  MeWatcher  which is something like a  running Excel
     Set MeWatcher.ExApp = Excel.Application '  I think this makes the object,  MeWatcher,  the actual running Excel
    End Sub
    
    ( The object variable, MeWatcher, needs to be outside the routine, so that it does not "vanish" when the routine ends )


    We are proposing/ suggesting that we don’t need the two instantiation lines. So that reduces to
    Code:
    
    
    
    
    
    Private Sub Workbook_Open()
     Set Me.ExApp = Excel.Application
    End Sub
    ( The Me. will become clear as we go on now to tackle the …._(i) Put the coding (which is given by either the text from the class module , or the coding from the perceptions suggestion ), in the ThisWorkbook code module ….

    For (i) it is very simple. We are assuming that the ThisWorkbook code module is of a similar source/ origin etc. as our perceived instanciated thing holding VBA source code which we don’t see , ( which is identical to the "stamp" of text of the class module ). The only difference is that it does not have the name of the instanciated object variable, MeWatcher, but rather ThisWorkbook and within it , as it were, we can also use Me.
    So what we have seen now many times as VBA source coding, or the text from the class "stamp", is all we need , this -
    Code:
    Public WithEvents ExApp As Excel.Application ' This makes ExApp a variable/ object that some how is like a running Excel, and also the   WithEvents  means it has access to all those  codings that it has that kick off when something happens
    
    ' This and the next macro is the text of coding we need to tell us if we open the file "test.csv"
    Public Sub ExApp_WorkbookOpen(ByVal Wb As Workbook) ' This will become a property in a final Instanciated object, and I intend to use it
    Dim s As String
     Let s = Wb.Name
        If s = "test.csv" Then Call MyMacro
    End Sub
    Sub MyMacro() ' This is available also in intellisense to a final instanciated object, although in this example I will not use it, - its calls from the routine above. Splitting the two is not done for any particular reason
    MsgBox Prompt:="You just opened  test.csv"
    End Sub
    



    So finally, for the solution using the ThisWorkbook module , we have just coding in the ThisWorkbook module, that’s it!

    Object module, ThisWorkbook
    Code:
    '    https://www.excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2451-Class-Stuff-VBA-Custom-Classes-amp-Objects-Class-Modules?p=24196&viewfull=1#post24196
    Option Explicit
    Public WithEvents ExApp As Excel.Application ' This makes ExApp a variable/ object that some how is like a running Excel, and also the   WithEvents  means it has access to all those  codings that it has that kick off when something happens
    
    ' This and the next macro is the text of coding we need to tell us if we open the file "test.csv"
    Public Sub ExApp_WorkbookOpen(ByVal Wb As Workbook) ' This will become a property in a final Instanciated object, and I intend to use it
    Dim s As String
     Let s = Wb.Name
        If s = "test.csv" Then Call MyMacro
    End Sub
    Sub MyMacro() ' This is available also in intellisense to a final instanciated object, although in this example I will not use it, - its calls from the routine above. Splitting the two is not done for any particular reason
    MsgBox Prompt:="You just opened  test.csv"
    End Sub
    
    
    
    
    
    Private Sub Workbook_Open()
     Set Me.ExApp = Excel.Application '   or  Set ThisWorkbook.ExApp = Excel.Application
    End Sub

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    Solution without Class module using a worksheet object code module

    This post describes what to do. Justification is given a couple of posts back

    We need to
    _(i) Put the coding (which is given by either the text from the class module , or the coding from the perceptions suggestion ), in any worksheet code module
    _(ii) Remove the two line instanciation coding.
    ( _(iii) We still need to assign the WithEvents of the Excel application object variable to the current running Excel )


    Lets do the last two (ii) and (iii), first
    We had this next codi9ng below, in the ThisWorkbook code module, where we conveniently had the instanciation added to the available Workbook_Open() coding, to get, in effect, perceptionally speaking, the VBA source code which we don’t see


    Object module, MeWatcher
    Code:
    Dim MeWatcher As FileOpenWatcher ' This must go here, not in the coding below, or else the variable will not exist after the coding below ends
    Private Sub Workbook_Open()      ' This is done when this file opens
     Set MeWatcher = New FileOpenWatcher    '   Make the object  MeWatcher  which is something like a  running Excel
     Set MeWatcher.ExApp = Excel.Application '  I think this makes the object,  MeWatcher,  the actual running Excel
    End Sub
    
    ( The object variable, MeWatcher, needs to be outside the routine, so that it does not "vanish" when the routine ends )


    We are proposing/ suggesting that we don’t need the two instantiation lines. So that reduces to
    Code:
    Private Sub Workbook_Open()           '  This is done when this file opens
     Set SheetX.ExApp = Excel.Application '  I think this makes the object,  ExApp,  the actual running Excel
    End Sub
    ( The SheetX. will become clear as we go on now to tackle the …._(i) Put the coding (which is given by either the text from the class module , or the coding from the perceptions suggestion ), in any worksheet code module ….

    For (i) it is very simple. We are assuming that the a wiorksheet code module is of a similar source/ origin etc. as our perceived instanciated thing holding VBA source code which we don’t see , ( which is identical to the "stamp" of text of the class module ). The only difference is that it does not have the name of the instanciated object variable, MeWatcher, but rather a reference to / name of a worksheet
    So what we have seen now many times as VBA source coding, or the text from the class "stamp", is all we need , this -
    Code:
    Public WithEvents ExApp As Excel.Application ' This makes ExApp a variable/ object that some how is like a running Excel, and also the   WithEvents  means it has access to all those  codings that it has that kick off when something happens
    
    ' This and the next macro is the text of coding we need to tell us if we open the file "test.csv"
    Public Sub ExApp_WorkbookOpen(ByVal Wb As Workbook) ' This will become a property in a final Instanciated object, and I intend to use it
    Dim s As String
     Let s = Wb.Name
        If s = "test.csv" Then Call MyMacro
    End Sub
    Sub MyMacro() ' This is available also in intellisense to a final instanciated object, although in this example I will not use it, - its calls from the routine above. Splitting the two is not done for any particular reason
    MsgBox Prompt:="You just opened  test.csv"
    End Sub
    



    So finally, for the solution using a worksheets code module , we have coding in the ThisWorkbook module, and a worksheets code module


    Object module, ThisWorkbook
    Code:
    Option Explicit
    Private Sub Workbook_Open()           '  This is done when this file opens
    ' Set Sheet1.ExApp = Excel.Application '  I think this makes the object,  ExApp,  the actual running Excel
    'or
     Set Worksheets("Sheet1").ExApp = Excel.Application
    End Sub
    






    Object module, Sheet1
    Code:
    Option Explicit
    Public WithEvents ExApp As Excel.Application ' This makes ExApp a variable/ object that some how is like a running Excel, and also the   WithEvents  means it has access to all those  codings that it has that kick off when something happens
    
    ' This and the next macro is the text of coding we need to tell us if we open the file "test.csv"
    Public Sub ExApp_WorkbookOpen(ByVal Wb As Workbook) ' This will become a property in a final Instanciated object, and I intend to use it
    Dim s As String
     Let s = Wb.Name
        If s = "test.csv" Then Call MyMacro
    End Sub
    Sub MyMacro() 
    MsgBox Prompt:="You just opened  test.csv"
    End Sub
    

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