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    Notes tests, text files, manipulation of text files in Excel and with Excel VBA CSV stuff

    One important note at the outset of these notes is that my Excel is default German. I expect therefore issues likely to arise in anything to do with use of a comma , because often the comma , in English for certain things in Excel is replaced with the semi colon ; in German Excel.

    Wot’s in a .csv file
    In many Excel versions, you have the choice of three different Save As options related to .csv extension files https://excel.tips.net/T002519_Comma...C_and_Mac.html

    So lets have a quick look at what the differences are…
    In each of the 3 cases I will
    make a virgin default template, save it
    make a virgin default template, put a value in first cell, save it
    make a virgin default template, put a value in first 2 cells, save it
    make a virgin default template, put a value in first 2 cells, and in the cell A2, save it
    ( Initially, when I put values in, I wont hit the Enter after: Initially I want to avoid purposely doing something that may introduce a carriage return or line feed. I will then look further at that issue later )
    After this I will investigate the made files , ( using , for example, my Sub WtchaGot_Unic_NotMuchIfYaChoppedItOff(ByVal strIn As String) ) ' https://excelfox.com/forum/showthrea...ts-of-a-string ' https://excelfox.com/forum/showthrea...ll=1#post11015
    https://excelfox.com/forum/showthrea...ll=1#post13699


    Here are the results ( It is a summary of what my function tells me is in those made files ) :
    CSV (Comma delimited)Empty.csv vbCr & vbLf
    CSV (Macintosh)Empty.csv vbCr & vbLf
    CSV (MS-DOS)Empty.csv vbCr & vbLf
    CSV (Comma delimited)A1.csv cellA1 "cellA1" & vbCr & vbLf
    CSV (Macintosh)A1.csv cellA1 "cellA1" & vbCr & vbLf
    CSV (MS-DOS)A1.csv cellA1 "cellA1" & vbCr & vbLf
    CSV (Comma delimited)A1B1.csv cellA1;cellB1 "cellA1" & ";" & "cellB1" & vbCr & vbLf
    CSV (Macintosh)A1B1.csv cellA1;cellB1 "cellA1" & ";" & "cellB1" & vbCr & vbLf
    CSV (MS-DOS)A1B1.csv cellA1;cellB1 "cellA1" & ";" & "cellB1" & vbCr & vbLf
    CSV (Comma delimited)A1B1A2.csv cellA1;cellB1
    callA2;
    "cellA1" & ";" & "cellB1" & vbCr & vbLf & "callA2" & ";" & vbCr & vbLf
    CSV (Macintosh)A1B1A2.csv cellA1;cellB1
    callA2;
    "cellA1" & ";" & "cellB1" & vbCr & "callA2" & ";" & vbCr & vbLf
    CSV (MS-DOS)A1B1A2.csv cellA1;cellB1
    callA2;
    "cellA1" & ";" & "cellB1" & vbCr & vbLf & "callA2" & ";" & vbCr & vbLf

    Important Conclusions are
    _ the Macintosh distinguishes itself with a carriage return character, vbCr , as the line separator for introduced lines
    _ There is always a last vbCr & vbLf – Note this means that for a single line, or empty file, we could not tell if we had a Macintosh

    When closing the file, I was prompted to answer if I wanted to save changes or not. ( I chose yes in the last experiment ). This is strange since I had previously saved the files before closing
    DoYouWantToSaveChangesOnCloseDespiteAlreadySavedCS V.JPG : https://imgur.com/nfnVwSF
    But it does not seem to have any effect if I chose Yes or No
    Some other observations.
    If I use a simple macro, as below, to save and close the file ( and except the changes, which I am still strangely asked for , with Yes), then I get commas instead for the separator/delimiter
    Code:
    Sub SaveCSVviaVBA()
     ActiveWorkbook.Save
     ActiveWorkbook.Close
    End Sub
    I get the same results for answering No

    These macros gives me the same results
    Code:
    Sub SaveAsCSVviaVBA()
     ActiveWorkbook.SaveAs Filename:=ThisWorkbook.Path & "\" & "csv Text file Chaos\" & "CSV (Comma delimited)A1B1A2" & ".csv"
     ActiveWorkbook.Close
    End Sub 
    Code:
    Sub SaveAsCSVviaVBAxlcsv()
     ActiveWorkbook.SaveAs Filename:=ThisWorkbook.Path & "\" & "csv Text file Chaos\" & "CSV (Comma delimited)A1B1A2" & ".csv", FileFormat:=xlCSV
     ActiveWorkbook.Close
    End Sub








    Ref
    https://excelfox.com/forum/showthrea...mediate-Window
    https://excelfox.com/forum/showthrea...ed-Text-String
    https://excel.tips.net/T002519_Comma...C_and_Mac.html
    https://excelribbon.tips.net/T010280...for_PC_and_Mac
    https://sites.google.com/a/madrocket...svs?authuser=0
    https://excelribbon.tips.net/T009508...ariations.html

    Eileen’sLoungeTextFiles
    http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewtop...274367#p274367


    https://excel.tips.net/T003232_Speci...n_a_Macro.html -- printer line save ……. This works this way by design in VBA. The Excel implementation of the export routines for VBA always use whatever the Windows regional settings are to determine how items in a CSV should be separated. Specifically, the routine looks at the List Separator field for the delimiter. This means that you can, if desired, change the delimiter to a semicolon by changing the List Separator setting in your regional settings configuration.
    If you don't want to change the regional settings, then you can instead write your own macro that will output the file in any way you desire. Consider, for a moment, the following macro, which will output the file:











    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVgLmj0aojI&lc=UgwWg8x2WxLSxxGsUP14AaABAg.9k3ShckGnhv9k89Lsaig oO
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVgLmj0aojI&lc=UgxxxIaK1pY8nNvx6JF4AaABAg.9k-vfnj3ivI9k8B2r_uRa2
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVgLmj0aojI&lc=UgxKFXBNd6Pwvcp4Bsd4AaABAg
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVgLmj0aojI&lc=Ugw9X6QS09LuZdZpBHJ4AaABAg
    Last edited by DocAElstein; 07-09-2023 at 07:31 PM.
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