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    Notes tests, string, manipulation of text files and string manipulations

    One important note at the outset of these notes is that my Excel is default German. I expect therefore issues likely to arise in anything to do with use of a comma , because often the comma , in English for certain things in Excel is replaced with the semi colon ; in German Excel.

    Wot’s in a .csv file
    In many Excel versions, you have the choice of three different Save As options related to .csv extension files https://excel.tips.net/T002519_Comma...C_and_Mac.html

    So lets have a quick look at what the differences are…
    In each of the 3 cases I will
    make a virgin default template, save it
    make a virgin default template, put a value in first cell, save it
    make a virgin default template, put a value in first 2 cells, save it
    make a virgin default template, put a value in first 2 cells, and in the cell A2, save it
    ( Initially, when I put values in, I wont hit the Enter after: Initially I want to avoid purposely doing something that may introduce a carriage return or line feed. I will then look further at that issue later )
    After this I will investigate the made files , ( using , for example, my Sub WtchaGot_Unic_NotMuchIfYaChoppedItOff(ByVal strIn As String) ) ' https://excelfox.com/forum/showthrea...ts-of-a-string ' https://excelfox.com/forum/showthrea...ll=1#post11015
    https://excelfox.com/forum/showthrea...ll=1#post13699


    Here are the results ( It is a summary of what my function tells me is in those made files ) :
    CSV (Comma delimited)Empty.csv vbCr & vbLf
    CSV (Macintosh)Empty.csv vbCr & vbLf
    CSV (MS-DOS)Empty.csv vbCr & vbLf
    CSV (Comma delimited)A1.csv cellA1 "cellA1" & vbCr & vbLf
    CSV (Macintosh)A1.csv cellA1 "cellA1" & vbCr & vbLf
    CSV (MS-DOS)A1.csv cellA1 "cellA1" & vbCr & vbLf
    CSV (Comma delimited)A1B1.csv cellA1;cellB1 "cellA1" & ";" & "cellB1" & vbCr & vbLf
    CSV (Macintosh)A1B1.csv cellA1;cellB1 "cellA1" & ";" & "cellB1" & vbCr & vbLf
    CSV (MS-DOS)A1B1.csv cellA1;cellB1 "cellA1" & ";" & "cellB1" & vbCr & vbLf
    CSV (Comma delimited)A1B1A2.csv cellA1;cellB1
    callA2;
    "cellA1" & ";" & "cellB1" & vbCr & vbLf & "callA2" & ";" & vbCr & vbLf
    CSV (Macintosh)A1B1A2.csv cellA1;cellB1
    callA2;
    "cellA1" & ";" & "cellB1" & vbCr & "callA2" & ";" & vbCr & vbLf
    CSV (MS-DOS)A1B1A2.csv cellA1;cellB1
    callA2;
    "cellA1" & ";" & "cellB1" & vbCr & vbLf & "callA2" & ";" & vbCr & vbLf

    Important Conclusions are
    _ the Macintosh distinguishes itself with a carriage return character, vbCr , as the line separator for introduced lines
    _ There is always a last vbCr & vbLf – Note this means that for a single line, or empty file, we could not tell if we had a Macintosh

    When closing the file, I was prompted to answer if I wanted to save changes or not. ( I chose yes in the last experiment ). This is strange since I had previously saved the files before closing
    DoYouWantToSaveChangesOnCloseDespiteAlreadySavedCS V.JPG : https://imgur.com/nfnVwSF
    But it does not seem to have any effect if I chose Yes or No
    Some other observations.
    If I use a simple macro, as below, to save and close the file ( and except the changes, which I am still strangely asked for , with Yes), then I get commas instead for the separator/delimiter
    Code:
    Sub SaveCSVviaVBA()
     ActiveWorkbook.Save
     ActiveWorkbook.Close
    End Sub
    I get the same results for answering No

    These macros gives me the same results
    Code:
    Sub SaveAsCSVviaVBA()
     ActiveWorkbook.SaveAs Filename:=ThisWorkbook.Path & "\" & "csv Text file Chaos\" & "CSV (Comma delimited)A1B1A2" & ".csv"
     ActiveWorkbook.Close
    End Sub 
    Code:
    Sub SaveAsCSVviaVBAxlcsv()
     ActiveWorkbook.SaveAs Filename:=ThisWorkbook.Path & "\" & "csv Text file Chaos\" & "CSV (Comma delimited)A1B1A2" & ".csv", FileFormat:=xlCSV
     ActiveWorkbook.Close
    End Sub








    Ref
    https://excelfox.com/forum/showthrea...mediate-Window
    https://excelfox.com/forum/showthrea...ed-Text-String
    https://excel.tips.net/T002519_Comma...C_and_Mac.html
    https://excelribbon.tips.net/T010280...for_PC_and_Mac
    https://sites.google.com/a/madrocket...svs?authuser=0
    https://excelribbon.tips.net/T009508...ariations.html

    Eileen’sLoungeTextFiles
    http://www.eileenslounge.com/viewtop...274367#p274367


    https://excel.tips.net/T003232_Speci...n_a_Macro.html -- printer line save ……. This works this way by design in VBA. The Excel implementation of the export routines for VBA always use whatever the Windows regional settings are to determine how items in a CSV should be separated. Specifically, the routine looks at the List Separator field for the delimiter. This means that you can, if desired, change the delimiter to a semicolon by changing the List Separator setting in your regional settings configuration.
    If you don't want to change the regional settings, then you can instead write your own macro that will output the file in any way you desire. Consider, for a moment, the following macro, which will output the file:






    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnxwq2aGJRbjOo_MO54oaHA




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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITI1HaFeq_g&lc=Ugy_1xkcndYdzUapw-J4AaABAg.9iGOq_leF_E9iKCSgpAqA1
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITI1HaFeq_g&lc=Ugy_1xkcndYdzUapw-J4AaABAg.9iGOq_leF_E9iKCy--3x8E
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITI1HaFeq_g&lc=Ugy_1xkcndYdzUapw-J4AaABAg.9iGOq_leF_E9iHpsWCdJ5I



    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnxwq2aGJRbjOo_MO54oaHA
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzbKqTRuRzU&lc=UgyYW2WZ2DvSrzUKnJ14AaABAg
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UywjKEMjSp0&lc=UgxIySxHPqM1RxtVqoR4AaABAg.9edGvmwOLq99eekDyfS0 CD
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIDLFRkUEIo&lc=UgzTF5vvB67Zbfs9qvx4AaABAg
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=363wd2EtQZ0&lc=UgzDQfo5rJqyVwvv2r54AaABAg
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=363wd2EtQZ0&lc=UgzHTSka7YppBdmUooV4AaABAg.9cXui6zzkz09cZttH_-2Gf
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnxwq2aGJRbjOo_MO54oaHA
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    Strange saving of "csv” files

    Strange saving of “csv” files in Excel
    Lets clarify and look in more detail at the strange saving of the files. In addition when we do it manually, we will run a macro recording
    We will concentrate on the CSV (______)A1B1A2.csv

    Comma delimited
    Initially, if you are starting from Excel with more than one worksheet showing, then an initial pop up warns you of this:
    PopUpWarningOfMultipleSheets.JPG : https://imgur.com/QLscU1a



    This initial pop up will not be shown if you have just one sheet showing at the Save stage

    Assuming we have said OK at the above pop up, or have not had this pop up, we examine now the set of pop ups that occur always..
    In both cases answering with Yes
    On the SaveAs ( or Save ) I get this prompt
    SaveAs or Save CSV (Comma delimited).JPG : : https://imgur.com/SQPHjWI
    WarningOnManualSaveOrSaveAScsv(Comma delimited).JPG : https://imgur.com/QiH8phI


    and these 2 prompts on the Close, ( the second of which is identical to that from the Save or SaveAs )
    this first being strange since I already just Saved the file
    AskToSaveTheChangesAfterSave CSV (Comma delimited).JPG
    : : https://imgur.com/8ih47Ty
    FirstWarningOnManualClose CSV (Comma delimited).jpg : https://imgur.com/dAxojzW


    The second is identical to that on the save : https://imgur.com/SQPHjWI
    SecondWarningOnManualClose CSV (Comma delimited).JPG : https://imgur.com/TY9eBqq


    The files as seen in test editor, or from my function, after is like
    CellA1;CellA2
    CellA3;

    The given macro coding from the macro recorder.
    Code:
    Sub CSVTests()
    ActiveWorkbook.SaveAs Filename:="F:\Excel0202015Jan2016\ExcelFox\vixer\csv Text file Chaos\CSV (Comma delimited)A1B1A2.csv", FileFormat:=xlCSV, CreateBackup:=False
    ActiveWorkbook.Save: ActiveWindow.Close
    End Sub
    If I answer No for the attempt at Save or SaveAs, then I will get the option to save as an Excel file
    Answer No on SaveAs or Save CSV (Comma delimited).JPG : https://imgur.com/uXWo8vz

    If I answer Yes for the attempt at Save or SaveAs, but then on Close , answer No to the first prompt, then I get that first prompt only: I don’t get the second prompt. But,
    _there is a no difference in the macro from the macro recorder
    and
    _there is no difference in the file seen in a text editor after.


    Should I now open manually the file, I find that the file has the values put, one in each cell, to reproduce the file such that it looks exactly as I created it originally
    If I run the macro obtained from the macro recorder, then on the SaveAs or Save , I don’t get any prompt
    On Close I get the first prompt only
    DoYouWantToSaveChangesOnCloseDespiteAlreadySavedCS V with maco.JPG : https://imgur.com/BihBGOH
    If I answer Yes or No , the file is saved without the second prompt as was the manual case.
    Strangely, my file as seen in a text editor is different to that obtained whilst manually doing the recording: It has now commas as the separator/delimiter
    cellA1,cellB1
    cellA2,

    Should I open this now manually, I will find that my row data is spit as before, but , I loose the columns, - that is to say the entire row information, including the , separator appear in the first column. So what is happening is that the , separator is not being recognised as a separator, and instead is being taken as pure text: My file is being seen as a text file having just rows of text, with no separator: In other words it could be regarded as a text file intended to hold the text values to be inserted into column A of an Excel File-
    Row\Col
    A
    B
    1
    CellA1,CellA2
    2
    CellA3,


    The conclusions are that manually closing I always get the ; as separator/delimiter, and by closing with a macro I always get the ,
    Lets just say that again in another way. I do anything manually, and I end up with ; as the separator
    I do anything with a macro and I end up with the , as separator.
    Even if I record a macro when doing it manually, that same macro if run later will end up giving me the , as separator. This last point is likely to be a source of possible confusion



    Just for completeness, the next post will check the same for saving as CSV Macintosh and CSV MS-DOS



    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnxwq2aGJRbjOo_MO54oaHA
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    This post repeats the processes and discussions of last post for saving as CSV Macintosh and CSV MS-DOS. ( We will assume we only have one worksheet showing at the start , so will not have the initial pop up warning ( https://imgur.com/QLscU1a )

    Macintosh
    We record a macro whilst doing Save, SaveAs , Close.
    We find that we get the following warnings, answering always Yes

    Save or SaveAs
    WarnugOnSaveOrSaveAsMacintoshCSV.JPG : https://imgur.com/jCJ5XjK


    Close
    WarningOnCloseForSavingChangesDespiteAlreadySavedM acintoshCSV.jpg : https://imgur.com/sShcoNq

    SecondWarningOnClose SameAsWarningOnSaveOrSaveAsMacintoshCSV.JPG : https://imgur.com/Q20iknI



    Here is the macro obtained from the recorder.
    Code:
    Sub SaveSaveAsCloseMacintoshCSV() '  https://excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2559-Notes-tests-text-files-manipulation-of-text-files-in-Excel-and-with-Excel-VBA?p=13741&viewfull=1#post13741
    ' Save manually
     ActiveWorkbook.Save
     ' SaveAs manually
     ActiveWorkbook.SaveAs Filename:="F:\Excel0202015Jan2016\ExcelFox\vixer\csv Text file Chaos\CSV (Macintosh)A1B1A2.csv", FileFormat:=xlCSVMac, CreateBackup:=False
    ' Warnings same for both: https://imgur.com/jCJ5XjK
    
    ' Close manually
     ActiveWorkbook.Save: ActiveWorkbook.Close
    ' two warnings obtained : https://imgur.com/sShcoNq , https://imgur.com/Q20iknI
    End Sub
    This is what it the produced text file, like in a text editor
    answering always Yes
    cellA1;cellB1cellA2;

    Note: if I copy and paste that into Word, then I get
    cellA1;cellB1
    callA2;


    Analysing what is there I see the typical results expected for a Macintosh csv file
    "cellA1" & ";" & "cellB1" & vbCr & "callA2" & ";" & vbCr & vbLf

    If I say No on the Close, then I get only that warning: The file closes without the second warning. But the results are the same


    If I run the recorded macro, ( on a newly made file ) , then there is no warning pop up on Save or SaveAs. I just get the single warning asking me if I want to save the changes on Close ( despite already with the preceding coding having Saved and SaveAsd and Saved before the Close
    MacroRunWarningOnCloseForSavingChangesDespiteAlrea dySavedMacintoshCSV.JPG : https://imgur.com/KYp1AYw
    The resulting text file has commas , for the separator
    CellA1,CellB1CellA2,
    I get the same results if I answer Yes or No to the warning


    CSV (MS-DOS)
    We record a macro on Save, SaveAs , Close. We get the following warnings, answering always Yes

    Save or SaveAs
    Manual SaveAs or Save CSV (MS-DOS) warning.JPG : https://imgur.com/vkikEUS


    Close
    Manual Close CSV (MS-DOS) first warning.JPG : https://imgur.com/uvh64E6

    Manual Close CSV (MS-DOS) second warning.JPG : https://imgur.com/sCPSmFX



    This macro is obtained
    Code:
    Sub ManualSaveSaveAsCloseCSV_MS_DOS_()
     ' Manual Save
     ActiveWorkbook.Save
     ' Manual SaveAs
     ActiveWorkbook.SaveAs Filename:="F:\Excel0202015Jan2016\ExcelFox\vixer\csv Text file Chaos\CSV (MS-DOS)A1B1A2.csv", FileFormat:=xlCSVMSDOS, CreateBackup:=False
     ' warning same for both https://imgur.com/vkikEUS
     
     ' Close manually
     ActiveWorkbook.Save: ActiveWindow.Close
     ' two warnings obtained https://imgur.com/uvh64E6 , https://imgur.com/sCPSmFX
    End Sub
    If I say No on the Close, then I get only that warning: The file closes without the second warning. But the results are the same.

    The resulting text file looks like this
    cellA1;cellB1
    callA2;


    If I run the macro produced from the macro recording, then I only get the first warning on at the Close
    MacroRunWarningOnCloseForSavingChangesDespiteAlrea dySavedCSVMSDOS.JPG : https://imgur.com/aCzwGqa


    It makes no difference if I answer Yes or No
    The results are that I get a file with comma , as the delimiter
    cellA1,cellB1
    callA2,



    Final Conclusions on Save SaveAs Close for the 3 CSV file types
    The following conclusions are in general identical for the three CSV types
    In my Excel, if I try to save or close manually a file as CSV type, then the separator becomes a ;
    Any attempt to do the same with a macro always results in a , as the separator, ( even if the macro had been derived from a macro recording when doing it manually which resulted in the ; as separator ).
    It makes no difference to the results by selecting a YES or No on any of the two possible prompts on a Close.
    ( The single prompt on a Save or SaveAs gives me the chance to go back to the save dialogue to choose an extension other than .csv)

    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnxwq2aGJRbjOo_MO54oaHA


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    ' 
    Sub WtchaGot_Unic_NotMuchIfYaChoppedItOff(ByVal strIn As String, Optional ByVal FlNme As String) '
    Rem 1  ' Output "sheet hardcopies"
    '1a) Worksheets     'Make Temporary Sheets, if not already there, in Current Active Workbook, for a simple list of all characters, and for pasting the string into worksheet cells
    '1a)(i) Full list of characters worksheet
        If Not Evaluate("=ISREF(" & "'" & "WotchaGotInString" & "'!Z78)") Then '   ( the '  are not important here, but in general allow for a space in the worksheet name like  "Wotcha Got In String"
        Dim Wb As Workbook '                                   ' ' Dim:  ' Preparing a "Pointer" to an Initial "Blue Print" in Memory of the Object ( Pigeon Hole with a bit of paper or code lines on that can be filled in to refer to a specific Objec of this type ) . This also us to get easily at the Methods and Properties throught the applying of a period ( .Dot) ( intellisense )                     '
         Set Wb = ActiveWorkbook '  '                            Set now (to Active Workbook - one being "looked at"), so that we carefull allways referrence this so as not to go astray through Excel Guessing inplicitly not the one we want...         Set: Values are filled at the memory locations and the directions there are specified in the variable "Blue Print "Pointer". In this case a Filled in Blue Print is passed.      http://www.excelforum.com/excel-programming-vba-macros/1138804-help-understanding-class-instancing-cant-set-ws-new-worksheet-intellisense-offers-it-4.html#post4387191                                '
         Wb.Worksheets.Add After:=Wb.Worksheets.Item(Worksheets.Count) 'A sheeet is added and will be Active
        Dim Ws As Worksheet '
         Set Ws = ActiveSheet 'Rather than rely on always going to the active sheet, we referr to it Explicitly so that we carefull allways referrence this so as not to go astray through Excel Guessing implicitly not the one we want...    Set: Values are filled at the memory locations and the directions there are specified in the variable "Blue Print "Pointer". In this case a Filled in Blue Print is passed.      http://www.excelforum.com/excel-programming-vba-macros/1138804-help-understanding-class-instancing-cant-set-ws-new-worksheet-intellisense-offers-it-4.html#post4387191            ' Values are filled at the memory locations and the directions there are specified in the variable "Blue Print "Pointer". In this case a Filled in Blue Print is passed.      http://www.excelforum.com/excel-programming-vba-macros/1138804-help-understanding-class-instancing-cant-set-ws-new-worksheet-intellisense-offers-it-4.html#post4387191
         Ws.Activate: Ws.Cells(1, 1).Activate ' ws.Activate and activating a cell sometimes seemed to overcome a strange error
         Let Ws.Name = "WotchaGotInString"
        Else ' The worksheet is already there , so I just need to set my variable to point to it
         Set Ws = ThisWorkbook.Worksheets("WotchaGotInString")
        End If
    '1a(ii) Worksheet to paste out string into worksheet cells
        If Not Evaluate("=ISREF(" & "'" & "StrIn|WtchaGot" & "'!Z78)") Then
         Set Wb = ActiveWorkbook
         Wb.Worksheets.Add After:=Wb.Worksheets.Item(1)
        Dim Ws1 As Worksheet
         Set Ws1 = ActiveSheet
         Ws1.Activate: Ws1.Cells(1, 1).Activate
         Let Ws1.Name = "StrIn|WtchaGot"
        Else
         Set Ws1 = ThisWorkbook.Worksheets("StrIn|WtchaGot")
        End If
    '1b) Array
    Dim myLenf As Long: Let myLenf = Len(strIn)  '            ' Long is very simple to handle, - final memory "size" type is known (123.456 and 000.001 have same "size" computer memory ) , and so a Address suggestion can be given for the next line when the variable is filled in.  '( Long is a Big whole Number limit (-2,147,483,648 to 2,147,483,647) If you need some sort of validation the value should only be within the range of a Byte/Integer otherwise there's no point using anything but Long.--upon/after 32-bit, Integers (Short) need converted internally anyways, so a Long is actually faster. )       https://www.mrexcel.com/forum/excel-questions/803662-byte-backward-loop-4.html
    Dim arrWotchaGot() As String: ReDim arrWotchaGot(1 To myLenf + 1, 1 To 2) ' +1 for header  Array for the output 2 column list.  The type is known and the size,  but I must use this ReDim  method simply because the dim statement  Dim( , )  is complie time thing and will only take actual numbers
     Let arrWotchaGot(1, 1) = FlNme & vbLf & Format(Now, "DD MMM YYYY") & vbLf & "Lenf is   " & myLenf: Let arrWotchaGot(1, 2) = Left(strIn, 40)
    Rem 2  String anylaysis
    'Dim myLenf As Long: Let myLenf = Len(strIn)
    Dim Cnt As Long
        For Cnt = 1 To myLenf ' ===Main Loop========================================================================
        ' Character analysis: Get at each character
        Dim Caracter As Variant ' String is probably OK.
        Let Caracter = Mid(strIn, Cnt, 1) ' '    the character in strIn at position from the left of length 1
        '2a) The character added to a single  WotchaGot  long character string to look at and possibly use in coding
        Dim WotchaGot As String ' This will be used to make a string that I can easilly see and also is in a form that I can copy and paste in a code line  required to build the full string of the complete character string
            '2a)(i) Most common characters and numbers to be displayed as "seen normally" ' -------2a)(i)--
            If Caracter Like "[A-Z]" Or Caracter Like "[0-9]" Or Caracter Like "[a-z]" Then ' Check for normal characters
                'SirNirios
                If Not Cnt = 1 Then ' I am only intersted in next line comparing the character before, and if i did not do this the next line would error if first character was a  "normal"  character
                    If Not Cnt = myLenf And (Mid(strIn, Cnt - 1, 1) Like "[A-Z]" Or Mid(strIn, Cnt - 1, 1) Like "[0-9]" Or Mid(strIn, Cnt - 1, 1) Like "[a-z]") Then  ' And (Mid(strIn, Cnt + 1, 1) Like "[A-Z]" Or Mid(strIn, Cnt + 1, 1) Like "[0-9]" Or Mid(strIn, Cnt + 1, 1) Like "[a-z]") Then
                     Let WotchaGot = WotchaGot & "|LinkTwoNormals|"
                    Else
                    End If
                Else
                End If
            Let WotchaGot = WotchaGot & """" & Caracter & """" & " & " ' This will give the sort of output that I need to write in a code line, so for example if I have a123 , this code line will be used 4 times and give like a final string for me to copy of   "a" & "1" & "2" & "3" &      I would phsically need to write in code  like  strVar = "a" & "1" & "2" & "3"   -  i could of course also write  = "a123"   but the point of this routine is to help me pick out each individual element
            Else ' Some other things that I would like to "see" normally - not "normal simple character" - or by a VBA constant, like vbCr vbLf  vbTab
             Select Case Caracter ' 2a)(ii)_1
              Case " "
               Let WotchaGot = WotchaGot & """" & " " & """" & " & "
              Case "!"
               Let WotchaGot = WotchaGot & """" & "!" & """" & " & "
              Case "$"
               Let WotchaGot = WotchaGot & """" & "$" & """" & " & "
              Case "%"
               Let WotchaGot = WotchaGot & """" & "%" & """" & " & "
              Case "~"
               Let WotchaGot = WotchaGot & """" & "~" & """" & " & "
              Case "&"
               Let WotchaGot = WotchaGot & """" & "&" & """" & " & "
              Case "("
               Let WotchaGot = WotchaGot & """" & "(" & """" & " & "
              Case ")"
               Let WotchaGot = WotchaGot & """" & ")" & """" & " & "
              Case "/"
               Let WotchaGot = WotchaGot & """" & "/" & """" & " & "
              Case "\"
               Let WotchaGot = WotchaGot & """" & "\" & """" & " & "
              Case "="
               Let WotchaGot = WotchaGot & """" & "=" & """" & " & "
              Case "?"
               Let WotchaGot = WotchaGot & """" & "?" & """" & " & "
              Case "'"
               Let WotchaGot = WotchaGot & """" & "'" & """" & " & "
              Case "+"
               Let WotchaGot = WotchaGot & """" & "+" & """" & " & "
              Case "-"
               Let WotchaGot = WotchaGot & """" & "-" & """" & " & "
              Case "_"
               Let WotchaGot = WotchaGot & """" & "_" & """" & " & "
              Case "."
               Let WotchaGot = WotchaGot & """" & "." & """" & " & "
              Case ","
               Let WotchaGot = WotchaGot & """" & "," & """" & " & "
              Case ";"
               Let WotchaGot = WotchaGot & """" & ";" & """" & " & "
              Case ":"
               Let WotchaGot = WotchaGot & """" & ":" & """"
              Case vbCr
               Let WotchaGot = WotchaGot & "vbCr & "  ' I actuall would write manually in this case like     vbCr &
              Case vbLf
               Let WotchaGot = WotchaGot & "vbLf & "
              Case vbCrLf
               Let WotchaGot = WotchaGot & "vbCrLf & "
              Case vbNewLine
               Let WotchaGot = WotchaGot & "vbNewLine & "
              Case """"   ' This is how to get a single   "    No one is quite sure how this works.  My theory that,  is as good as any other,  is that  syntaxly   """"    or  "  """  or    """    "   are accepted.   But  in that the  """  bit is somewhat strange for VBA.   It seems to match  the first and Third " together as a  valid pair   but  the other  " in the middle of the  3 "s is also syntax OK, and does not error as    """     would  because  of the final 4th " which it syntaxly sees as a valid pair matched simultaneously as it does some similar check on the  first  and Third    as a concluding  string pair.  All is well except that  the second  "  is captured   within a   accepted  enclosing pair made up of the first and third  "   At the same time the 4th  "  is accepted as a final concluding   "   paired with the   second which it is  using but at the same time now isolated from.
               Let WotchaGot = WotchaGot & """" & """" & """" & """" & " & "                                ' The reason why  ""  ""   would not work is that    at the end of the  "" the next empty  character signalises the end of a  string pair, and only if  it saw a " would it keep checking the syntax rules which  then lead in the previous case to  the situation described above.
              Case vbTab
               Let WotchaGot = WotchaGot & "vbTab & "
              ' 2a)(iii)
                Case Else
                    If AscW(Caracter) < 256 Then
                     Let WotchaGot = WotchaGot & "Chr(" & AscW(Caracter) & ")" & " & "
                    Else
                     Let WotchaGot = WotchaGot & "ChrW(" & AscW(Caracter) & ")" & " & "
                    End If
                'Let CaseElse = Caracter
            End Select
            End If ' End of the "normal simple character" or not ' -------2a)------Ended-----------
        '2b)  A 2 column Array for convenience of a list
         Let arrWotchaGot(Cnt + 1, 1) = Cnt & "           " & Caracter: Let arrWotchaGot(Cnt + 1, 2) = AscW(Caracter) ' +1 for header
        Next Cnt ' ========Main Loop=================================================================================
        '2c) Some tidying up
        If WotchaGot <> "" Then
         Let WotchaGot = Left(WotchaGot, Len(WotchaGot) - 3) ' take off last " & "    ( 2 spaces one either side of a  & )
         Let WotchaGot = Replace(WotchaGot, """ & |LinkTwoNormals|""", "", 1, -1, vbBinaryCompare)
         ' The next bit changes like this  "Lapto" & "p"  to  "Laptop"   You might want to leave it out ti speed things up a bit
            If Len(WotchaGot) > 5 And (Mid(WotchaGot, Len(WotchaGot) - 1, 1) Like "[A-Z]" Or Mid(WotchaGot, Len(WotchaGot) - 1, 1) Like "[0-9]" Or Mid(WotchaGot, Len(WotchaGot) - 1, 1) Like "[a-z]") And (Mid(WotchaGot, Len(WotchaGot) - 7, 1) Like "[A-Z]" Or Mid(WotchaGot, Len(WotchaGot) - 7, 1) Like "[0-9]" Or Mid(WotchaGot, Len(WotchaGot) - 7, 1) Like "[a-z]") And Mid(WotchaGot, Len(WotchaGot) - 6, 5) = """" & " & " & """" Then
             Let WotchaGot = Left$(WotchaGot, Len(WotchaGot) - 7) & Mid(WotchaGot, Len(WotchaGot) - 1, 2) '  Changes like this  "Lapto" & "p"  to  "Laptop"
            Else
            End If
        Else
        End If
    Rem 3 Output
    '3a) String
    '3a)(i)
    MsgBox Prompt:=WotchaGot: Debug.Print WotchaGot ' Hit Ctrl+g from the VB Editor to get a copyable version of the entire string
    '3a)(ii)
    Ws1.Activate: Ws1.Cells.Item(1, 1).Activate
    Dim Lr1 As Long: Let Lr1 = Ws1.Range("A" & Ws1.Rows.Count).End(xlUp).Row     '   http://www.excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2345-Appendix-Thread-(-Codes-for-other-Threads-HTML-Tables-etc-)?p=11466&viewfull=1#post11466      Making Lr dynamic ( using rng.End(XlUp) for a single column. )
     Let Ws1.Range("A" & Lr1 + 1 & "").Value = FlNme
     Let Ws1.Range("B" & Lr1 + 1 & "").Value = strIn
     Let Ws1.Range("C" & Lr1 + 1 & "").Value = WotchaGot
     Ws1.Cells.Columns.AutoFit
    '3b) List
    Dim NxtClm As Long: Let NxtClm = 1 ' In conjunction with next  If  this prevents the first column beine taken as 0 for an empty worksheet
     Ws.Activate: Ws.Cells.Item(1, 1).Activate
     If Not Ws.Range("A1").Value = "" Then Let NxtClm = Ws.Cells.Item(1, Columns.Count).End(xlToLeft).Column + 1
     Let Ws.Cells.Item(1, NxtClm).Resize(UBound(arrWotchaGot(), 1), UBound(arrWotchaGot(), 2)).Value = arrWotchaGot()
     Ws.Cells.Columns.AutoFit
    End Sub
    '
    ' https://excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/1546-TESTING-Column-Letter-test-Sort-Last-Row?p=7214#post7214
    Public Function CL(ByVal lclm As Long) As String '         http://www.excelforum.com/development-testing-forum/1101544-thread-post-appendix-no-reply-needed-please-do-not-delete-thanks-4.html#post4213980
        Do: Let CL = Chr(65 + (((lclm - 1) Mod 26))) & CL: Let lclm = (lclm - (1)) \ 26: Loop While lclm > 0
    End Function
    
    '    Lets have a look at a bit of the text file
    Sub LookInFirstBitOfTextString()
    Dim FileNum As Long: Let FileNum = FreeFile(1)                                                                               ' https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/vba/language-reference-vba/articles/freefile-function
    Dim PathAndFileName As String, TotalFile As String, FlNme As String
     Let PathAndFileName = ThisWorkbook.Path & "\" & "ttFirstBit" '
    Open PathAndFileName For Binary As #FileNum 'Open Route to data. Binary is a fundemental type data input...
    TotalFile = Space(LOF(FileNum)) '....and wot recives it hs to be a string of exactly the right length
    Get #FileNum, , TotalFile
    Close #FileNum
    ' What is in this string?
    Call WtchaGot_Unic_NotMuchIfYaChoppedItOff(TotalFile, FlNme)
    End Sub






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