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    spare post for later

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    Some notes in support of this main forum post
    https://eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=39859


    _____ Workbook: ctry_cd masteList.xlsx ( Using Excel 2007 32 bit )
    Row\Col
    A
    B
    C
    D
    E
    F
    1
    Country
    Company
    Country name
    Logistics
    Finance
    2
    229
    ABC
    Algeria
    01
    5123
    3
    229
    UPS
    Algeria
    08
    1552
    4
    373
    IBM
    Mauritius offshore
    01
    5153
    5
    382
    Toshiba
    Mali
    01
    5115
    6
    383
    Apple
    Equatorial Guinea
    01
    0833
    7
    602
    IBM
    Estonia
    10
    0393
    8
    602
    Microsoft
    Estonia
    NG
    Y022
    9
    610
    SAP
    ANGOLA
    MC
    5802
    10
    613
    GESNEXT
    Argentina
    TG
    1458
    11
    613
    IBM
    Argentina
    01
    0007
    12
    Worksheet: Sheet
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    Some notes in support of this main forum post
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    We can get simple data from a closed workbook. There are a few ways. The way shown here is the simplest, but often the most efficient way. I think it comes about because an “Excel file” , as we see it, is actually some combination of files somehow wrapped up in something that most of us know as an excel file.
    One of the files has the values of used ranges, and/or something like that combined with a simplified sort of spreadsheet with just values in it. (I am not sure why that is. Maybe something to do with making things run more efficiently, since those files will be used often rather than looking at an entire sheet where lots of cells would typically be empty).

    Strange looking string reference to a closed workbook
    Microsoft lets us access the data without opening the full “Excel file”. We do that with a strange looking string reference. I don’t know why Microsoft chose to use such a strange syntax, but as Einstein cleverly advised, we should not waste our brain remembering some code that someone else dreamt up. Instead either note it somewhere , document it good and forget about it and/ or come up with a simple way to get it.

    Get the awkward syntax for string reference to a closed workbook
    Whether by design or accident, there is a simple way to get the awkward syntax.
    Take for example the worksheet in an Excel file shown in the last post, https://www.excelfox.com/forum/showt...ll=1#post21203
    Now do this
    _ Open that workbook, ctry_cd masteList.xlsx
    _ Open any other spare workbook
    _ In the spare workbook do this
    ___ Type in any cell _ =
    ___Now click on the first cell in the worksheet, Sheet , in the workbook, ctry_cd masteList.xlsx
    ___Hit Enter

    _ if you click on/ look at the cell you were typing in, then you should see this in the formula bar,
    ='[ctry_cd masteList.xlsx]Sheet'!$A$1
    , and in the cell you will see the actiual cell value from the first cell in the worksheet, Sheet , in the workbook, ctry_cd masteList.xlsx , which is
    Country
    _ Now close the workbook, ctry_cd masteList.xlsx

    _ Now you should see that strange looking reference mutate to something even more grotesque , ***the exact form will vary depending on where you have that file, ctry_cd masteList.xlsx , stored. This is what it looks like by me
    ='F:\Excel0202015Jan2016\ExcelForum\wbSheetMakerCl sdWbADOMsQueery\[ctry_cd masteList.xlsx]Sheet'!$A$1

    _ You should see that it is still working , in other words it is getting you the value from the , now, closed workbook, ctry_cd masteList.xlsx

    _ You should copy that reference and paste it somewhere, for example in a comment in the VB Editor
    Code:
      '   ='F:\Excel0202015Jan2016\ExcelForum\wbSheetMakerClsdWbADOMsQueery\[ctry_cd masteList.xlsx]Sheet'!$A$1
    
    ( ***Yours will look a bit different. )
    In fact, you do already need to change that a bit, - just get rid of the $s
    Code:
      '   ='F:\Excel0202015Jan2016\ExcelForum\wbSheetMakerClsdWbADOMsQueery\[ctry_cd masteList.xlsx]Sheet'!A1
    
    What to do with that reference to get a range of values (from a closed workbook)
    You need to understand one of the most basic things about Excel that so far only I do.
    A cell reference without the $s is not really a cell reference. It is a vector, and the value, A1 in this case, tells us how far you are from the origin. If you place that vector, ( stretch it, if you like), into the next cell, then Excel will display you B1

    In the example file, lets say I want to import that range into a spare worksheet into a spare workbook, SpareWorkbook.xls
    So all I need to do is paste that vector into some range of a similar size. The range I want from the worksheet, Sheet , in the workbook, ctry_cd masteList.xlsx is A1:E11
    For no particular reason I will choose a spare range of B2:F12

    This coding will put the vector in that range, and then convert the reference into the actual values from the closed workbook that the reference gets you in each cell.
    (For convenience, if I put that spare workbook in the same folder as the file in which ctry_cd masteList.xlsx is, then I can simplifier the coding a bit, which is what the ThisWorkbook.Path is about)

    Code:
    '   https://www.excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2868-Test-Closed-Workbook-Excel-macros-XLM-(Excel-4-Macros)-winhlp32-files?p=21204&viewfull=1#post21204
    '   https://eileenslounge.com/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=39859
    
    '   ='F:\Excel0202015Jan2016\ExcelForum\wbSheetMakerClsdWbADOMsQueery\[ctry_cd masteList.xlsx]Sheet'!$A$1
    Sub PutTheVectorInToGetTheValuesFromClosedWorkbook()
     Let Range("B2:F12").Value = "='F:\Excel0202015Jan2016\ExcelForum\wbSheetMakerClsdWbADOMsQueery\[ctry_cd masteList.xlsx]Sheet'!A1"   '  YOU WILL NEED to change the path to suit where you have the closed  file,    ctry_cd masteList.xlsx 
    '  Or,  if you have the closed file in the same folder as the file from which this macro is run, then you can use the next line
     Let Range("B2:F12").Value = "='" & ThisWorkbook.path & "\[ctry_cd masteList.xlsx]Sheet'!A1"
     Let Range("B2:F12").Value = Range("B2:F12").Value
    End Sub
    



    If you want to test out what I am talking about,
    _ Put both attached files in the same folder.
    _ Open just SpareWorkbook.xls
    _ Run the macro Sub PutTheVectorInToGetTheValuesFromClosedWorkbook() which is in the, now open, workbook , SpareWorkbook.xls, and be amazed.





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    Some more notes and observations for this post
    https://eileenslounge.com/viewtopic....308967#p308967

    Consider the original file, ctry_cd masteList.xlsx

    We can make a copy of the original file :
    Make copy of xlsx book.JPG



    We can be a bit naughty and change the extension to .zip
    Change type to zip.JPG





    Then we can take a look at what is in it.
    Look inside the zip.JPG





    For example take a look at the Xl folder
    Look inside the Xl.JPG






    After looking around a bit we can find the values from used ranges in simple XML files.
    Look around a bit at the xml files.JPG






    My guess is that we can get at the value info quite efficiently from those files, just as we can often get at such simple value information by using various methods to get at text files. My guess is that I can treat a XML file as a simple .txt file


    My theory is that my simple closed workbook reference may somehow short-circuit / by-pass the various data base complicated methods, and perhaps work better than such various data base complicated methods.
    Last edited by DocAElstein; 07-10-2023 at 01:24 PM.

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    Someone who is a vba fucker shouldn't talk about databases and PQ at all without any idea how it works
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    But then nobody should talk about it, because no one knows how it works. Probably no one knows really how VBA works either. We’re all ignorant fuckers most of the time

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    if you say so...
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    Correct,

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