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    YouTube, Video making and editing, etc. coupled to excelfox ( windows Movie Maker )

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    This is post #post23586
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    Movie maker History


    Summarised History, (Not Complete) Initial versions History, 1 - 6

    There is a bit of overlap, and as often with Microsoft Version Histories, there is confusion and disagreement. The following is the best average I have so far. The (date stamps) are my best average so far and are intended as an approximate time line
    (2000) - Version 1.0 https://i.postimg.cc/8csCfWf2/Movie-Maker-Version-1.jpg
    The first release of Windows Movie Maker was included with Windows Me on September 14, 2000 (ME build 2416 https://betawiki.net/wiki/Windows_Me_build_2416 ) . Windows 2000 did not have it, but it could be copied** successfully to it. (** see xxxxxxx )
    (2001) - Version 1.1 https://i.postimg.cc/NMdM0bF8/Movie-...ersion-1-1.jpg
    Version 1.1 was included in Windows XP a year later, 25 October 2001 as part of Windows XP, and included support for creating DV AVI and WMV 8 files.
    (2002) - Version 2.0 ( Sometimes regarded as XP version ) https://i.postimg.cc/2886gsHH/Movie-Maker-version-2.jpg

    Version 2.0 was released as a free update to 1.1, in November 2002, and added a number of new features. It went some way to answering critic on the first version, and often the Classic/Start of Movie Maker around close to XP start time is regarded as the 2.1 era. –
    (2004) - Version 2.1 ( Windows XP Service Pack 2 ) https://i.postimg.cc/L4V5C9VY/Movie-...ersion-2-1.jpg
    Version 2.1, a minor update, is included in, so coming from installing, Windows XP Service Pack 2
    (2001-2006 overlap) ( Windows Vista development time from before XP in 2001 to final release of Vista in 2006 )
    The overlap and confusion may have resulted from the design teams being drunk in between times: Microsoft originally expected to ship Vista sometime late in 2003 as a minor step between Windows XP (codenamed "Whistler") and the next planned major release of Windows, code-named "Blackcomb". Vista's original codename, "Longhorn", was an allusion to this plan, a sort of inbetween idea: While Whistler and Blackcomb are large ski resorts in British Columbia, Longhorn is the name of a bar between the two mountains that Whistler's visitors pass to reach Blackcomb.
    2004
    A Windows Presentation Foundation (WPF) version of Windows Movie Maker was also included in some development builds of Vista (at the time codenamed "Longhorn"), but was removed in the development reset in August 2004. ( After the development reset, the interface for the WPF-based Windows Movie Maker was retained in Windows Vista later)
    (2005) - Version 2.5 https://i.postimg.cc/NjK0j1vm/Version-2-5.jpg , https://i.postimg.cc/3JSRhtV3/Versio...ransitions.jpg

    The Movie Maker in Windows XP Media Center Edition 2005 had more transitions and support for DVD burning.
    (2006) - Version 6.0 ( 2.7 )
    The next main version is Windows Movie Maker 6.0 which had both a 64-bit version and GPU rendering of effects and transitions. It was released as part of Windows Vista, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqzeFYWjTxI&t=17s (Vista started in 2006), and – like most Windows components – reported version number 6.0.6000, same as Windows Vista itself.


    So that was an introduction, going up to around the Vista time. Up to this time Movie Maker was generally a version bundled into an operating system, (although as mentioned, it could often be easily added too operating system’s not having a particular version)
    From windows 7, it was mostly something to download.

    We have approximately got to the point at this stage , typical in Microsoft, an intermediate period stage, where things got newer and in many user’s opinions, worse.
    But, as mentioned, in the case of Movie Maker, things are a bit blurred. Not criticising necessarily, just saying. If you keep your wits about you , then you can pick out good stuff from around this period

    Attempt to order into Windows Versions
    The following 3 posts order Movie Maker approximately into the three main Windows versions which officially supported Movie Maker

    XP era

    Vista era

    Windows 7 + era

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    XP era versions

    This post is https://www.excelfox.com/forum/showt...ll=1#post23587 https://www.excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2936-YouTube-Video-making-and-editing-etc-coupled-to-excelfox-(-windows-Movie-Maker-)?p=23587&viewfull=1#post23587
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    XP era versions



    (2001) - Version 1.1 https://i.postimg.cc/NMdM0bF8/Movie-...ersion-1-1.jpg
    Version 1.1 was included in Windows XP, 25 October 2001 as part of Windows XP, and included support for creating DV AVI and WMV 8 files.

    (2002) - Version 2.0 ( Sometimes regarded as XP version ) https://i.postimg.cc/2886gsHH/Movie-Maker-version-2.jpg

    Version 2.0 was released as a free update to 1.1, in November 2002, and added a number of new features. It went some way to answering critic on the first version, and often the Classic/Start of Movie Maker around close to XP start time is regarded as the version 2 – version 2.1 era. –

    (2004) - Version 2.1 ( Windows XP Service Pack 2 ) https://i.postimg.cc/L4V5C9VY/Movie-...ersion-2-1.jpg
    Version 2.1, a minor update, is included in, so coming from installing, Windows XP Service Pack 2

    (2001-2006 overlap) ( Windows Vista development time from before XP in 2001 to final release of Vista in 2006 )
    The overlap and confusion may have resulted from the design teams being drunk in between times: Microsoft originally expected to ship Vista sometime late in 2003 as a minor step between Windows XP (codenamed "Whistler") and the next planned major release of Windows, code-named "Blackcomb". Vista's original codename, "Longhorn", was an allusion to this plan, a sort of inbetween idea: While Whistler and Blackcomb are large ski resorts in British Columbia, Longhorn is the name of a bar between the two mountains that Whistler's visitors pass to reach Blackcomb.

    2004
    A Windows Presentation Foundation (WPF) version of Windows Movie Maker was also included in some development builds of Vista (at the time codenamed "Longhorn"), but was removed in the development reset in August 2004. After the development reset, (the interface for the WPF-based Windows Movie Maker was retained in Windows Vista later)

    (2005) - Version 2.5 https://i.postimg.cc/NjK0j1vm/Version-2-5.jpg , https://i.postimg.cc/3JSRhtV3/Versio...ransitions.jpg

    The Movie Maker in Windows XP Media Center Edition 2005 had more transitions and support for DVD burning.

    ( (2006) - Version 6.0 ( 2.7 )
    The next main version is Windows Movie Maker 6.0 which had both a 64-bit version and GPU rendering of effects and transitions. It was released as part of Windows Vista, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqzeFYWjTxI&t=17s (Vista started in 2006), and – like most Windows components – reported version number 6.0.6000, same as Windows Vista itself.
    It included new effects and transitions, support for playback on the Xbox 360,and support for the DVR-MS file format that Windows Media Center records television in. The HD version in Premium and Ultimate editions of Windows Vista also added support for capturing from HDV camcorders. The capture wizard also created DVR-MS type files from HDV tapes. However, the Windows Vista version of Windows Movie Maker removed support for importing video from an analog video source such as an analog camcorder, VCR or from a webcam. There is no "2.7 XP version". People may incorrectly be referring to the Windows Vista version of Windows Movie Maker 2.6 that is basically a CPU-only version using the XP code for those on Vista that didn't have a powerful enough GPU. As some older systems might not be able to run the new version of Windows Movie Maker. Vista at the end of the final pre-release development stages may also have been code-named 2.7
    )

    (2007) - Version 2.6 https://i.postimg.cc/HLxZ8ksq/Version-2-6.jpg

    So, Microsoft also released an updated older version 2.6 for Windows Vista on Microsoft Download Centre, possibly around 2007-2009. This version is basically the same as Windows Movie Maker 2.1 and included all of the old effects and transitions, but it excludes the ability to capture video. It can only be installed on Windows Vista and is only intended for use on computers where the hardware-accelerated version cannot run. 2.6 is very similar to 2.5, as it was, or at least is often referred to as, a refurbished XP version 2.5

    (2008) - Version 2009
    Around 2008-2009, when windows 7 started, it seems that some further development was done on windows movie maker. The word Live started to crop up…
    (2008) - Version 2009
    Windows Live Movie Maker. Windows Live Essentials
    As for the "Windows Live" version, A new version of the software, renamed Windows Live Movie Maker 2009, was released as a beta on September 17, 2008, and officially released as a standalone product through Windows Live Essentials suite on August 19, 2009.
    Windows Live Movie Maker 2009 is officially the last version to support Windows XP, ( Windows Live Photo Gallery version 14.0.8117.416 )

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    OBS Classic, Open Broadcaster Software (original stuff).

    2015
    Code:
    * Fixed a button label issue when starting/stopping streaming
    * Added a check to make sure if adapter still exists; if not, use default
    * Added option to advanced settings to allow full color range encoding (partial by default for compatibility purposes)
    * Added option to allow the ability to set the YUV color space and color range for video devices
    * Added support for IPv6
    * Fixed bug where warnings for CBR/keyint/etc wouldn't display for certain services (like hitbox)
    * Fixed NVenc CBR to actually be constant bitrate
    0.64 Beta - 2015-01-23
    
    * Fixed a few issues with Elgato devices and made sure that buffering is always enabled for them as the default
    * Fixed a bug with animated gif handling
    * Fixed a bug with with game capture potentially causing crashes in 64bit games
    * Updated x264 to the latest revision
    * Added Opacity option to slide show source
    * Added the scene switcher plugin as an OBS default plugin
    0.65 Beta - 2015-03-06
    
    * Updated server list
    * Fixed debug files
    * Minor Bug fixes
    0.651 Beta - 2015-03-25
    
    * Fixed a potential crash with gif files
    * Fixed a bug where transitions set to under 3 seconds would get stuck
    * Added ability to add custom services
    * Added ability to add folders to image slideshow source rather than individual files
    0.652 Beta - 2015-07-10
    
    * Fixed a bug where adding folders to the image slideshow wouldn't work properly
    0.653 Beta - 2015-07-21
    
    * Fixed an issue with log files not reporting the correct windows version
    * Fixed windows 10 slowdown capturing DirectX 9 games with game capture
    0.654 Beta - 2015-08-02
    
    * Fixed a windows 10 slowdown capturing DirectX 9 games with game capture (due to a recent windows update that invalidated the last patch)
    0.655 Beta - 2015-08-09
    
    * Fix outdated DirectX installer link
    * Fix FLV format bug that affected some video file players/demuxers
    * Add support for more quicksync CPUs
    * Save scenes/sources when windows itself is shutting down the program
    * Don't deselect when ctrl-clicking empty space
    * Don't snap crop when resizing a source
    0.656 Beta - 2015-10-02
    
    * Updated game capture for latest windows 10 update
    * Fixed a bug where certain devices (particularly elgato devices) could cause a crash when they change resolution or when starting up
    0.657 Beta - 2015-11-24

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    Vista era versions

    This post is https://www.excelfox.com/forum/showt...ll=1#post23588 https://www.excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2936-YouTube-Video-making-and-editing-etc-coupled-to-excelfox-(-windows-Movie-Maker-)?p=23588&viewfull=1#post23588
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    Vista era versions


    ( (2006) - Version 6.0 ( 2.7 )
    The first next main version is Windows Movie Maker 6.0 which had both a 64-bit version and GPU rendering of effects and transitions. It was released as part of Windows Vista, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqzeFYWjTxI&t=17s (Vista started in 2006), and – like most Windows components – reported version number 6.0.6000, same as Windows Vista itself.
    It included new effects and transitions, support for playback on the Xbox 360,and support for the DVR-MS file format that Windows Media Center records television in. The HD version in Premium and Ultimate editions of Windows Vista also added support for capturing from HDV camcorders. The capture wizard also created DVR-MS type files from HDV tapes. However, the Windows Vista version of Windows Movie Maker removed support for importing video from an analog video source such as an analog camcorder, VCR or from a webcam. There is no "2.7 XP version". People may incorrectly be referring to the Windows Vista version of Windows Movie Maker 2.6 that is basically a CPU-only version using the XP code for those on Vista that didn't have a powerful enough GPU. As some older systems might not be able to run the new version of Windows Movie Maker. Vista at the end of the final pre-release development stages may also have been code-named 2.7
    )

    (2007) - Version 2.6 https://i.postimg.cc/HLxZ8ksq/Version-2-6.jpg

    So, Microsoft also released an updated older version 2.6 for Windows Vista on Microsoft Download Centre, possibly around 2006 - 2007. This version is basically the same as Windows Movie Maker 2.1 and included all of the old effects and transitions, but it excludes the ability to capture video. It can only be installed on Windows Vista and is only intended for use on computers where the hardware-accelerated version cannot run. 2.6 is very similar to 2.5, as it was, or at least is often referred to as, a refurbished XP version 2.5

    (2008) - Version 2009
    Around 2008-2009, when windows 7 started, it seems that some further development was done on windows movie maker. The word Live started to crop up…
    (2008) - Version 2009
    Windows Live Movie Maker. Windows Live Essentials
    This was supplied as a download, from which you could, amongst other things, install "Windows Live" version of movie maker https://i.postimg.cc/hjBqj42L/Window...-installer.jpg
    As for the "Windows Live" version of movie maker , A new version of the software, renamed Windows Live Movie Maker 2009, was released as a beta on September 17, 2008, and officially released as a standalone product through Windows Live Essentials suite on August 19, 2009. ( Windows Live Movie Maker 2009 is officially the last version to support Windows XP , ( Windows Live Photo Gallery version 14.0.8117.416 ) )
    This version shows interface changes including ribbon similar to that starting in Microsoft Office in 2007.
    This version added functions like "Auto Movie" which can convert a Video directly to YouTube or DVDs
    https://i.postimg.cc/7hq9bjvt/Window...Maker-2009.jpg

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    Windows 7 + era

    This post is https://www.excelfox.com/forum/showt...ll=1#post23589 https://www.excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2936-YouTube-Video-making-and-editing-etc-coupled-to-excelfox-(-windows-Movie-Maker-)?p=23589&viewfull=1#post23589
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    Windows 7 + era versions



    Around 2008-2009, when windows 7 started, it seems that some further development was done on windows movie maker. The word Live started to crop up… From windows 7, Movie maker was officially mostly bundled inside something to be downloaded, although it is not clear if there may have been a standalone initial version, perhaps in an overlap period
    (2008) - Version 2009
    Windows Live Movie Maker. Windows Live Essentials
    As for the "Windows Live" version, A new version of the software, renamed Windows Live Movie Maker 2009, was released as a beta on September 17, 2008, and officially released as a standalone product through Windows Live Essentials suite on August 19, 2009. Windows Live Movie Maker 2009 is last version to support Windows XP, ( Windows Live Photo Gallery version 14.0.8117.416 )
    Live Movie Maker 2009 supported both Windows Vista and Windows 7. About this time, 2009, Windows Movie Maker was no longer included with the operating system, which most likely means Vista will usually have Movie Maker, and a small chance it might also have Windows Live. I appear to have both on a Vista machine from new, ( it is showing as Windows Live Essentials 2011 https://i.postimg.cc/x8vVRv9Z/Window...nstllation.jpg )
    https://i.postimg.cc/7hq9bjvt/Window...Maker-2009.jpg


    (2010) - Version 2011
    The only way to obtain Live Movie Maker on Windows 7 from this time and later was through the Windows Live Essentials suite, although some manufacturers pre-installed the application on new PCs.
    An updated version , Windows Live Movie Maker 2011, was released on August 17, 2010, adding features such as webcam capture, support for high-definition video, the ability to upload videos directly to SkyDrive, Facebook, and YouTube through their respective web APIs, and the ability to add media files stored on network shares to projects .
    Windows Essentials 2011, Released on 30 September 2010, "Windows Live Essentials 2011" runs on Windows Vista or later. Accordingly, it runs successfully on Windows 10 (just the same as any other 32-bit program
    (So Windows Movie Maker was known as Windows Live Movie Maker for the 2009 and 2011 releases)
    https://postimg.cc/sMSHvPb4


    (2012) - Version 2012 2012.1
    Windows Essentials 2012 ( discontinuation of the Windows Live brand (and the re-branding of the Windows Live suite as Windows Essentials )
    With the discontinuation of the Windows Live brand (and the re-branding of the Windows Live suite as Windows Essentials , Windows Movie Maker 2012 was released in April 2012. Support for recording voice-overs was restored, along with an audio mixer and integration with several free stock music services. H.264/MP4 became the default export format (replacing Windows Media Video, but still can be used), support for uploading to Vimeo was introduced (other sites were added to the list in the Windows 8.1 release of the suite), and hardware accelerated video pila stabilisation was also added as an exclusive feature for Windows 8 users.
    So the last version was Movie Maker 2012 (they dropped the "Live" branding, so it makes for confusion with the much earlier original Movie Maker ).
    Windows Essentials 2012 was last updated in April 2014, support ended in 2017, it was removed for download on January 10, 2017.
    https://i.postimg.cc/0y1MM0Dg/Window...Maker-2012.jpg



    My best guess, just my opinion, is that Movie Maker was stopped as it was not reaching out to people and using them in the way that Microsoft had hoped. Movie maker is still regarded by many people as very good, but not at the top end of what is currently available.








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    (2001) - Version 1.1 https://i.postimg.cc/NMdM0bF8/Movie-...ersion-1-1.jpg
    Version 1.1 was included in Windows XP, 25 October 2001 as part of Windows XP, and included support for creating DV AVI and WMV 8 files.

    (2002) - Version 2.0 ( Sometimes regarded as XP version ) https://i.postimg.cc/2886gsHH/Movie-Maker-version-2.jpg

    Version 2.0 was released as a free update to 1.1, in November 2002, and added a number of new features. It went some way to answering critic on the first version, and often the Classic/Start of Movie Maker around close to XP start time is regarded as the version 2 – version 2.1 era. –

    (2004) - Version 2.1 ( Windows XP Service Pack 2 ) https://i.postimg.cc/L4V5C9VY/Movie-...ersion-2-1.jpg
    Version 2.1, a minor update, is included in, so coming from installing, Windows XP Service Pack 2

    (2001-2006 overlap) ( Windows Vista development time from before XP in 2001 to final release of Vista in 2006 )
    The overlap and confusion may have resulted from the design teams being drunk in between times: Microsoft originally expected to ship Vista sometime late in 2003 as a minor step between Windows XP (codenamed "Whistler") and the next planned major release of Windows, code-named "Blackcomb". Vista's original codename, "Longhorn", was an allusion to this plan, a sort of inbetween idea: While Whistler and Blackcomb are large ski resorts in British Columbia, Longhorn is the name of a bar between the two mountains that Whistler's visitors pass to reach Blackcomb.

    2004
    A Windows Presentation Foundation (WPF) version of Windows Movie Maker was also included in some development builds of Vista (at the time codenamed "Longhorn"), but was removed in the development reset in August 2004. After the development reset, (the interface for the WPF-based Windows Movie Maker was retained in Windows Vista later)

    (2005) - Version 2.5 https://i.postimg.cc/NjK0j1vm/Version-2-5.jpg , https://i.postimg.cc/3JSRhtV3/Versio...ransitions.jpg

    The Movie Maker in Windows XP Media Center Edition 2005 had more transitions and support for DVD burning.

    ( (2006) - Version 6.0 ( 2.7 )
    The next main version is Windows Movie Maker 6.0 which had both a 64-bit version and GPU rendering of effects and transitions. It was released as part of Windows Vista, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqzeFYWjTxI&t=17s (Vista started in 2006), and – like most Windows components – reported version number 6.0.6000, same as Windows Vista itself.
    It included new effects and transitions, support for playback on the Xbox 360,and support for the DVR-MS file format that Windows Media Center records television in. The HD version in Premium and Ultimate editions of Windows Vista also added support for capturing from HDV camcorders. The capture wizard also created DVR-MS type files from HDV tapes. However, the Windows Vista version of Windows Movie Maker removed support for importing video from an analog video source such as an analog camcorder, VCR or from a webcam. There is no "2.7 XP version". People may incorrectly be referring to the Windows Vista version of Windows Movie Maker 2.6 that is basically a CPU-only version using the XP code for those on Vista that didn't have a powerful enough GPU. As some older systems might not be able to run the new version of Windows Movie Maker. Vista at the end of the final pre-release development stages may also have been code-named 2.7
    )

    (2007) - Version 2.6 https://i.postimg.cc/HLxZ8ksq/Version-2-6.jpg

    So, Microsoft also released an updated older version 2.6 for Windows Vista on Microsoft Download Centre, possibly around 2007-2009. This version is basically the same as Windows Movie Maker 2.1 and included all of the old effects and transitions, but it excludes the ability to capture video. It can only be installed on Windows Vista and is only intended for use on computers where the hardware-accelerated version cannot run. 2.6 is very similar to 2.5, as it was, or at least is often referred to as, a refurbished XP version 2.5

    (2008) - Version 2009
    Around 2008-2009, when windows 7 started, it seems that some further development was done on windows movie maker. The word Live started to crop up…
    (2008) - Version 2009
    Windows Live Movie Maker. Windows Live Essentials
    As for the "Windows Live" version, A new version of the software, renamed Windows Live Movie Maker 2009, was released as a beta on September 17, 2008, and officially released as a standalone product through Windows Live Essentials suite on August 19, 2009.
    Windows Live Movie Maker 2009 is officially the last version to support Windows XP, ( Windows Live Photo Gallery version 14.0.8117.416 )

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    (2001) - Version 1.1 https://i.postimg.cc/NMdM0bF8/Movie-...ersion-1-1.jpg
    Version 1.1 was included in Windows XP, 25 October 2001 as part of Windows XP, and included support for creating DV AVI and WMV 8 files.

    (2002) - Version 2.0 ( Sometimes regarded as XP version ) https://i.postimg.cc/2886gsHH/Movie-Maker-version-2.jpg

    Version 2.0 was released as a free update to 1.1, in November 2002, and added a number of new features. It went some way to answering critic on the first version, and often the Classic/Start of Movie Maker around close to XP start time is regarded as the version 2 – version 2.1 era. –

    (2004) - Version 2.1 ( Windows XP Service Pack 2 ) https://i.postimg.cc/L4V5C9VY/Movie-...ersion-2-1.jpg
    Version 2.1, a minor update, is included in, so coming from installing, Windows XP Service Pack 2

    (2001-2006 overlap) ( Windows Vista development time from before XP in 2001 to final release of Vista in 2006 )
    The overlap and confusion may have resulted from the design teams being drunk in between times: Microsoft originally expected to ship Vista sometime late in 2003 as a minor step between Windows XP (codenamed "Whistler") and the next planned major release of Windows, code-named "Blackcomb". Vista's original codename, "Longhorn", was an allusion to this plan, a sort of inbetween idea: While Whistler and Blackcomb are large ski resorts in British Columbia, Longhorn is the name of a bar between the two mountains that Whistler's visitors pass to reach Blackcomb.

    2004
    A Windows Presentation Foundation (WPF) version of Windows Movie Maker was also included in some development builds of Vista (at the time codenamed "Longhorn"), but was removed in the development reset in August 2004. After the development reset, (the interface for the WPF-based Windows Movie Maker was retained in Windows Vista later)

    (2005) - Version 2.5 https://i.postimg.cc/NjK0j1vm/Version-2-5.jpg , https://i.postimg.cc/3JSRhtV3/Versio...ransitions.jpg

    The Movie Maker in Windows XP Media Center Edition 2005 had more transitions and support for DVD burning.

    ( (2006) - Version 6.0 ( 2.7 )
    The next main version is Windows Movie Maker 6.0 which had both a 64-bit version and GPU rendering of effects and transitions. It was released as part of Windows Vista, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqzeFYWjTxI&t=17s (Vista started in 2006), and – like most Windows components – reported version number 6.0.6000, same as Windows Vista itself.
    It included new effects and transitions, support for playback on the Xbox 360,and support for the DVR-MS file format that Windows Media Center records television in. The HD version in Premium and Ultimate editions of Windows Vista also added support for capturing from HDV camcorders. The capture wizard also created DVR-MS type files from HDV tapes. However, the Windows Vista version of Windows Movie Maker removed support for importing video from an analog video source such as an analog camcorder, VCR or from a webcam. There is no "2.7 XP version". People may incorrectly be referring to the Windows Vista version of Windows Movie Maker 2.6 that is basically a CPU-only version using the XP code for those on Vista that didn't have a powerful enough GPU. As some older systems might not be able to run the new version of Windows Movie Maker. Vista at the end of the final pre-release development stages may also have been code-named 2.7
    )

    (2007) - Version 2.6 https://i.postimg.cc/HLxZ8ksq/Version-2-6.jpg

    So, Microsoft also released an updated older version 2.6 for Windows Vista on Microsoft Download Centre, possibly around 2007-2009. This version is basically the same as Windows Movie Maker 2.1 and included all of the old effects and transitions, but it excludes the ability to capture video. It can only be installed on Windows Vista and is only intended for use on computers where the hardware-accelerated version cannot run. 2.6 is very similar to 2.5, as it was, or at least is often referred to as, a refurbished XP version 2.5

    (2008) - Version 2009
    Around 2008-2009, when windows 7 started, it seems that some further development was done on windows movie maker. The word Live started to crop up…
    (2008) - Version 2009
    Windows Live Movie Maker. Windows Live Essentials
    As for the "Windows Live" version, A new version of the software, renamed Windows Live Movie Maker 2009, was released as a beta on September 17, 2008, and officially released as a standalone product through Windows Live Essentials suite on August 19, 2009.
    Windows Live Movie Maker 2009 is officially the last version to support Windows XP, ( Windows Live Photo Gallery version 14.0.8117.416 )

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    This is post #post23586
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    Movie maker History


    Summarised History, (Not Complete) Initial versions History, 1 - 6

    There is a bit of overlap, and as often with Microsoft Version Histories, there is confusion and disagreement. The following is the best average I have so far. The (date stamps) are my best average so far and are intended as an approximate time line
    (2000) - Version 1.0 https://i.postimg.cc/8csCfWf2/Movie-Maker-Version-1.jpg
    The first release of Windows Movie Maker was included with Windows Me on September 14, 2000 (ME build 2416 https://betawiki.net/wiki/Windows_Me_build_2416 ) . Windows 2000 did not have it, but it could be copied** successfully to it. (** see xxxxxxx )
    (2001) - Version 1.1 https://i.postimg.cc/NMdM0bF8/Movie-...ersion-1-1.jpg
    Version 1.1 was included in Windows XP a year later, 25 October 2001 as part of Windows XP, and included support for creating DV AVI and WMV 8 files.
    (2002) - Version 2.0 ( Sometimes regarded as XP version ) https://i.postimg.cc/2886gsHH/Movie-Maker-version-2.jpg

    Version 2.0 was released as a free update to 1.1, in November 2002, and added a number of new features. It went some way to answering critic on the first version, and often the Classic/Start of Movie Maker around close to XP start time is regarded as the 2.1 era. –
    (2004) - Version 2.1 ( Windows XP Service Pack 2 ) https://i.postimg.cc/L4V5C9VY/Movie-...ersion-2-1.jpg
    Version 2.1, a minor update, is included in, so coming from installing, Windows XP Service Pack 2
    (2001-2006 overlap) ( Windows Vista development time from before XP in 2001 to final release of Vista in 2006 )
    The overlap and confusion may have resulted from the design teams being drunk in between times: Microsoft originally expected to ship Vista sometime late in 2003 as a minor step between Windows XP (codenamed "Whistler") and the next planned major release of Windows, code-named "Blackcomb". Vista's original codename, "Longhorn", was an allusion to this plan, a sort of inbetween idea: While Whistler and Blackcomb are large ski resorts in British Columbia, Longhorn is the name of a bar between the two mountains that Whistler's visitors pass to reach Blackcomb.
    2004
    A Windows Presentation Foundation (WPF) version of Windows Movie Maker was also included in some development builds of Vista (at the time codenamed "Longhorn"), but was removed in the development reset in August 2004. ( After the development reset, the interface for the WPF-based Windows Movie Maker was retained in Windows Vista later)
    (2005) - Version 2.5 https://i.postimg.cc/NjK0j1vm/Version-2-5.jpg , https://i.postimg.cc/3JSRhtV3/Versio...ransitions.jpg

    The Movie Maker in Windows XP Media Center Edition 2005 had more transitions and support for DVD burning.
    (2006) - Version 6.0 ( 2.7 )
    The next main version is Windows Movie Maker 6.0 which had both a 64-bit version and GPU rendering of effects and transitions. It was released as part of Windows Vista, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqzeFYWjTxI&t=17s (Vista started in 2006), and – like most Windows components – reported version number 6.0.6000, same as Windows Vista itself.


    So that was an introduction, going up to around the Vista time. Up to this time Movie Maker was generally a version bundled into an operating system, (although as mentioned, it could often be easily added too operating system’s not having a particular version)
    From windows 7, it was mostly something to download.

    We have approximately got to the point at this stage , typical in Microsoft, an intermediate period stage, where things got newer and in many user’s opinions, worse.
    But, as mentioned, in the case of Movie Maker, things are a bit blurred. Not criticising necessarily, just saying. If you keep your wits about you , then you can pick out good stuff from around this period

    Attempt to order into Windows Versions
    The following 3 posts order Movie Maker approximately into the three main Windows versions which officially supported Movie Maker

    XP era

    Vista era

    Windows 7 + era

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    XP era versions

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    https://www.excelfox.com/forum/showt...er-)#post23587 https://www.excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2936-YouTube-Video-making-and-editing-etc-coupled-to-excelfox-(-windows-Movie-Maker-)#post23587






    XP era versions



    (2001) - Version 1.1 https://i.postimg.cc/NMdM0bF8/Movie-...ersion-1-1.jpg
    Version 1.1 was included in Windows XP, 25 October 2001 as part of Windows XP, and included support for creating DV AVI and WMV 8 files.

    (2002) - Version 2.0 ( Sometimes regarded as XP version ) https://i.postimg.cc/2886gsHH/Movie-Maker-version-2.jpg

    Version 2.0 was released as a free update to 1.1, in November 2002, and added a number of new features. It went some way to answering critic on the first version, and often the Classic/Start of Movie Maker around close to XP start time is regarded as the version 2 – version 2.1 era. –

    (2004) - Version 2.1 ( Windows XP Service Pack 2 ) https://i.postimg.cc/L4V5C9VY/Movie-...ersion-2-1.jpg
    Version 2.1, a minor update, is included in, so coming from installing, Windows XP Service Pack 2

    (2001-2006 overlap) ( Windows Vista development time from before XP in 2001 to final release of Vista in 2006 )
    The overlap and confusion may have resulted from the design teams being drunk in between times: Microsoft originally expected to ship Vista sometime late in 2003 as a minor step between Windows XP (codenamed "Whistler") and the next planned major release of Windows, code-named "Blackcomb". Vista's original codename, "Longhorn", was an allusion to this plan, a sort of inbetween idea: While Whistler and Blackcomb are large ski resorts in British Columbia, Longhorn is the name of a bar between the two mountains that Whistler's visitors pass to reach Blackcomb.

    2004
    A Windows Presentation Foundation (WPF) version of Windows Movie Maker was also included in some development builds of Vista (at the time codenamed "Longhorn"), but was removed in the development reset in August 2004. After the development reset, (the interface for the WPF-based Windows Movie Maker was retained in Windows Vista later)

    (2005) - Version 2.5 https://i.postimg.cc/NjK0j1vm/Version-2-5.jpg , https://i.postimg.cc/3JSRhtV3/Versio...ransitions.jpg

    The Movie Maker in Windows XP Media Center Edition 2005 had more transitions and support for DVD burning.

    ( (2006) - Version 6.0 ( 2.7 )
    The next main version is Windows Movie Maker 6.0 which had both a 64-bit version and GPU rendering of effects and transitions. It was released as part of Windows Vista, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqzeFYWjTxI&t=17s (Vista started in 2006), and – like most Windows components – reported version number 6.0.6000, same as Windows Vista itself.
    It included new effects and transitions, support for playback on the Xbox 360,and support for the DVR-MS file format that Windows Media Center records television in. The HD version in Premium and Ultimate editions of Windows Vista also added support for capturing from HDV camcorders. The capture wizard also created DVR-MS type files from HDV tapes. However, the Windows Vista version of Windows Movie Maker removed support for importing video from an analog video source such as an analog camcorder, VCR or from a webcam. There is no "2.7 XP version". People may incorrectly be referring to the Windows Vista version of Windows Movie Maker 2.6 that is basically a CPU-only version using the XP code for those on Vista that didn't have a powerful enough GPU. As some older systems might not be able to run the new version of Windows Movie Maker. Vista at the end of the final pre-release development stages may also have been code-named 2.7
    )

    (2007) - Version 2.6 https://i.postimg.cc/HLxZ8ksq/Version-2-6.jpg

    So, Microsoft also released an updated older version 2.6 for Windows Vista on Microsoft Download Centre, possibly around 2007-2009. This version is basically the same as Windows Movie Maker 2.1 and included all of the old effects and transitions, but it excludes the ability to capture video. It can only be installed on Windows Vista and is only intended for use on computers where the hardware-accelerated version cannot run. 2.6 is very similar to 2.5, as it was, or at least is often referred to as, a refurbished XP version 2.5

    (2008) - Version 2009
    Around 2008-2009, when windows 7 started, it seems that some further development was done on windows movie maker. The word Live started to crop up…
    (2008) - Version 2009
    Windows Live Movie Maker. Windows Live Essentials
    As for the "Windows Live" version, A new version of the software, renamed Windows Live Movie Maker 2009, was released as a beta on September 17, 2008, and officially released as a standalone product through Windows Live Essentials suite on August 19, 2009.
    Windows Live Movie Maker 2009 is officially the last version to support Windows XP, ( Windows Live Photo Gallery version 14.0.8117.416 )

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    XP era versions



    (2001) - Version 1.1 https://i.postimg.cc/NMdM0bF8/Movie-...ersion-1-1.jpg
    Version 1.1 was included in Windows XP, 25 October 2001 as part of Windows XP, and included support for creating DV AVI and WMV 8 files.

    (2002) - Version 2.0 ( Sometimes regarded as XP version ) https://i.postimg.cc/2886gsHH/Movie-Maker-version-2.jpg

    Version 2.0 was released as a free update to 1.1, in November 2002, and added a number of new features. It went some way to answering critic on the first version, and often the Classic/Start of Movie Maker around close to XP start time is regarded as the version 2 – version 2.1 era. –

    (2004) - Version 2.1 ( Windows XP Service Pack 2 ) https://i.postimg.cc/L4V5C9VY/Movie-...ersion-2-1.jpg
    Version 2.1, a minor update, is included in, so coming from installing, Windows XP Service Pack 2

    (2001-2006 overlap) ( Windows Vista development time from before XP in 2001 to final release of Vista in 2006 )
    The overlap and confusion may have resulted from the design teams being drunk in between times: Microsoft originally expected to ship Vista sometime late in 2003 as a minor step between Windows XP (codenamed "Whistler") and the next planned major release of Windows, code-named "Blackcomb". Vista's original codename, "Longhorn", was an allusion to this plan, a sort of inbetween idea: While Whistler and Blackcomb are large ski resorts in British Columbia, Longhorn is the name of a bar between the two mountains that Whistler's visitors pass to reach Blackcomb.

    2004
    A Windows Presentation Foundation (WPF) version of Windows Movie Maker was also included in some development builds of Vista (at the time codenamed "Longhorn"), but was removed in the development reset in August 2004. After the development reset, (the interface for the WPF-based Windows Movie Maker was retained in Windows Vista later)

    (2005) - Version 2.5 https://i.postimg.cc/NjK0j1vm/Version-2-5.jpg , https://i.postimg.cc/3JSRhtV3/Versio...ransitions.jpg

    The Movie Maker in Windows XP Media Center Edition 2005 had more transitions and support for DVD burning.

    ( (2006) - Version 6.0 ( 2.7 )
    The next main version is Windows Movie Maker 6.0 which had both a 64-bit version and GPU rendering of effects and transitions. It was released as part of Windows Vista, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqzeFYWjTxI&t=17s (Vista started in 2006), and – like most Windows components – reported version number 6.0.6000, same as Windows Vista itself.
    It included new effects and transitions, support for playback on the Xbox 360,and support for the DVR-MS file format that Windows Media Center records television in. The HD version in Premium and Ultimate editions of Windows Vista also added support for capturing from HDV camcorders. The capture wizard also created DVR-MS type files from HDV tapes. However, the Windows Vista version of Windows Movie Maker removed support for importing video from an analog video source such as an analog camcorder, VCR or from a webcam. There is no "2.7 XP version". People may incorrectly be referring to the Windows Vista version of Windows Movie Maker 2.6 that is basically a CPU-only version using the XP code for those on Vista that didn't have a powerful enough GPU. As some older systems might not be able to run the new version of Windows Movie Maker. Vista at the end of the final pre-release development stages may also have been code-named 2.7
    )

    (2007) - Version 2.6 https://i.postimg.cc/HLxZ8ksq/Version-2-6.jpg

    So, Microsoft also released an updated older version 2.6 for Windows Vista on Microsoft Download Centre, possibly around 2007-2009. This version is basically the same as Windows Movie Maker 2.1 and included all of the old effects and transitions, but it excludes the ability to capture video. It can only be installed on Windows Vista and is only intended for use on computers where the hardware-accelerated version cannot run. 2.6 is very similar to 2.5, as it was, or at least is often referred to as, a refurbished XP version 2.5

    (2008) - Version 2009
    Around 2008-2009, when windows 7 started, it seems that some further development was done on windows movie maker. The word Live started to crop up…
    (2008) - Version 2009
    Windows Live Movie Maker. Windows Live Essentials
    As for the "Windows Live" version, A new version of the software, renamed Windows Live Movie Maker 2009, was released as a beta on September 17, 2008, and officially released as a standalone product through Windows Live Essentials suite on August 19, 2009.
    Windows Live Movie Maker 2009 is officially the last version to support Windows XP, ( Windows Live Photo Gallery version 14.0.8117.416 )

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