P2P Cloud DVR remote Access via a (remote) PC Using Guarding Vision PC Client Software

**DocAElstein** · 09-16-2015, 03:25 PM

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**DocAElstein** · 09-16-2015, 03:25 PM

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Post #4 PC Use of accessing DVR

Summary second way to use DVR with a PC locally _(ii) DVR in Local use( making use of a modern internet Modem/ Router ‘s LAN function )
The simple usage is fairly restricted, and a slightly more useful system would allow for more flexibility on where the monitors are relative to the DVR, possibly also with the ability to access the same pictures from different locations, ( possibly with that also simultaneously)

Traditionally such systems may have been referred to as Closed-circuit television ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Closed-circuit_television ) Video surveillance system.
Earlier traditional systems would have been used in some closed local copper wiring system, (or using wireless systems operating over just a very small area), such as used as a security surveillance and crime prevention system in a single building or property or car park or airport etc, etc.. Our DVR can also be used in such a way via a LAN computer system
In a traditionally earlier LAN system, there would have likely been a large central computer, possibly referred to as a Server.
In more recent years, in many modern buildings and private houses the internet, ( in addition to the usually telephone line ) is available and the entering wires or cables will usually be connected firstly to some device of the “Router” or “modem” sort. Usually the main function of this device will be to separate and / or modify the signals coming into your house to be used on your telephone and any computers you have, but also, usually this device has a secondary function allowing it to be used in a similar way to the traditional LAN server. The Guarding Vision Software has been written to take good advantage of this, and it is therefore necessary, ( assuming you want option (ii) ), to connect via the DVR LAN socket with a LAN R45 Ethernet cable so connected between your Router/ modem and the DVR.
Mouse: ( Monitor menus )
( If you are only interested in option (i) , then there is no need to connect to your router. For this option any settings or adjustments or controlling is done via menus on the monitor screen which appear when you right click on the mouse, which should be connected. This mouse and the menu options are needed mostly for use of (i) , but it is also needed initially for the first set up of the DVR and the mouse and monitor menus are also possibly needed to do some things later when using options (ii) or (iii) )

Although whilst there is not a great technical step from (ii) to (iii) with the Guarding Vision Software, it has been organised in a somewhat cumbersome way, and it seems to not have been understood fully before the various documentation was written, resulting in confusing and mostly incorrect instructions.

Summary of third way to use the DVR with a PC remotely_(iii) Remote Access ( via the internet )
The way that the remote access is obtained is not very obvious, and in fact, it is so cumbersome and complicated ( in my opinion unnecessarily ) , such that, at the time of me writing these notes, all available and published information and instructions are wrong
Two basic things are necessary for you to be able to access the DVR remotely with a PC
_ The DVR needs to been enabled to allow this. ( This can be done during the initial first set up, or at a later date via settings using a monitor connected directly to the DVR ). This is fairly straight forward: A small box entitled , not surprisingly, “Enable” needs to be checked.
_ You have certain information. This is the cumbersome complicated part: The information and knowledge that you need will vary depending on what has been done previously by yourself and others. Some things that need to be done can only be done once by one person, ( or one account ).

**DocAElstein** · 09-16-2015, 03:25 PM

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https://excelfox.com/forum/showthrea...ware#post15896 https://excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2769-P2P-Cloud-DVR-remote-Access-via-a-(remote)-PC-Using-Guarding-Vision-PC-Client-Software#post15896

This is post 16051
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https://excelfox.com/forum/showthrea...ware#post16051 https://excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2769-P2P-Cloud-DVR-remote-Access-via-a-(remote)-PC-Using-Guarding-Vision-PC-Client-Software#post16051

Other general background issues
_ Problems, difficulties/ Bugs.
So far, I have met nobody selling the product who understands fully all you need to know. In fact I have met nobody and read no information or instructions that explain fully and/ or correctly. What makes it worse is that nobody involved with marketing or selling or supporting the DVR or the client software seems to understand much English ( or German ) language

_“Adding” things and considerations
At various stages in organising obtaining remote access things need to “Added”
There are few different “Adding” buttons and processes. In most cases it is possibly better to try to think of this Adding as making things available
So far, I think I am the only one that has a full understanding of this. So be aware of this if you follow any published instructions.
I expect a lot of people like me have had a lot of frustrating time as a result of this but at some point, like I did, I probably hit the wrong Add button at some point and or in a combination of doing something else I accidentally did the right thing without noticing and finally got the thing working as I wanted it

LAN _ - _ P2P ( what does P2P refer to . “Cloud” _ – _ “ Local” )
We have already discussed what LAN refers to: the local network access processes and possibilities.
P2P refers to the particular technology used in the remote connections across the internet in the remote internet access of the DVR and its connected cameras, ( what we have discussed under (iii) ) So P2P has simply crept in as a convenient word or phrase that rolls of the tongue and helps to distinguish between the two ways, (ii) and (iii). There is no particular significance to the use of Cloud when one uses Cloud P2P. Cloud is simply another convenient term related to internet to distinguish from local connections. So in our application any combinations of LAN – P2P or local LAN – Cloud P2P are just convenient easy to distinguish between the two ways, (ii) and (iii) , that we have discussed

_Software quirks with names and Email addresses
Some names and Email addresses are not allowed, for not always obvious reasons. That is complicated and confused by
_ there being a lot of different passwords needed at different times and places, that you need to know about,
and
_ a strange phenomena which is that if you use successfully or unsuccessfully a password or email somewhere, some cross wiring or bug seems to make it unusable anywhere ever again , even if it never end up being used successfully anywhere in the first place
_ things sometimes don’t work properly or fully if you don’t do them quickly.
_ Passwords seem to change or stop working, especially if they are not used for a long time.

I have had to spend a lot of time in order to get some way into straightening out the spaghetti mess , so it does not surprise me that no one else yet has it fully sorted out as I have, at least not at the time of me writing this

Things change after other things are done, or occur as a result of other things being done. Missing Buttons
The options and buttons available and shown in the Guarding Vision software change as a result of other things being done. As you can do things in different sequence, this makes it difficult to give accurate instructions on what to do. In addition important things that need to be done cannot be directly selected. They occur as a result of other things being done.
These points have only been partially understood by others, which has contributed to the incorrect published information
One specific example is at a crucial final stage where it is necessary for the software to “import” certain information. There is no option to specifically do this. Instead its necessary to log out and log in quickly in order to cause this to be done. This has not been understood , as far as I can tell, by anyone other than me, at least at the time of me writing this

can't see the wood for the trees
As already noted, there is a basic setting up for the first time process, after which, it is possible to go almost directly to organising option (iii), even if you have no direct access to the DVR. I think it is very important to note this point, even if , as I wouild recommend, you take the time to go through all, starting with the section, Using the DVR from new for the first time. I think failing to know this point has encouraged a type of confusion , often referred to as something like “not being able to see the Forest because of the trees “, ( https://www.collinsdictionary.com/di...-for-the-trees
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/de/...-for-the-trees )

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So I will do my best to produce some documentation for my revision later and for the benefit of anyone else I will share it at various places under different headings. My only assumption is that either you, or someone, can get as far as, or has already got as far as , unpacking the DVR and any things like cameras, mouse, power supply etc. that comes with, and had got as far connecting cameras, or at least one camera initially, to the DVR and connecting the DVR to a monitor. Getting that far is about as much as you can rely on any supplied instructions to help you to do, or most of the YouTube tutorials on the subject.

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**DocAElstein** · 09-16-2015, 03:25 PM

Introduction first post #1
Link to here : https://excelfox.com/forum/showthrea...ll=1#post15896 https://excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2769-P2P-Cloud-DVR-remote-Access-via-a-(remote)-PC-Using-Guarding-Vision-PC-Client-Software?p=15896&viewfull=1#post15896
https://excelfox.com/forum/showthrea...are1#post15896
https://excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2769-P2P-Cloud-DVR-remote-Access-via-a-(remote)-PC-Using-Guarding-Vision-PC-Client-Software#post15896

Post #1 https://excelfox.com/forum/showthrea...ftware?p=15896

P2P Cloud DVR remote Access via a (remote) **Windows PC( or laptop or Notebook )**
Using Guarding Vision Microsoft Windows PC Client Software
Sannce DN81BL

( ** These notes are not intended to address any issues related to Mobil Phone use. There is no requirement to have a mobile phone when reading or applying any things discussed ).
General notes and introduction – how to organise that it can be done
There are some rather cumbersome and complicated concepts and processes, which it is necessary for you to understand, which this introduction attempts to clarify. You may want to re read this introduction first post, as you attempt to make progress in later posts. It is very easy to get mixed up.

What is a DVR, ( Digital Video Receiver in a security system )
_(i) Mainly, In general this will be a device capable of recording and viewing security cameras. But we are specifically in this Blog considering access to that DVR via a computer. Broadly this could be considered as possible in two ways,
_(ii) some "local" way, where your modem/router may allow access if your computer and the DVR are on the same local network,
and the way we are particularly interested in,
_(iii) "remote" access across the internet.
PC access to the DVR
_ For local access the DVR does not seem to have a unique identifier , but is given some identifying number by your network, ( which may change from time to time)
_ For remote across the internet, this seems tzo have been organised such that each sold / supplied DVR is a unique entity as a result of having some unique hard coded number, ( For the particular Model we are considering , it has an identifying, 9 character serial number, SN ( This serial number is effectively the 2nd of 4 usernames that you will encounter ) ).
If you know this number, ( and possibly some other account information ) then the DVR can be accessed remotely over the internet, and explaining how to do that is the main purpose of this Blog Thread.

Specifically we are talking about this thing: https://i.postimg.cc/gJ93xHhk/DVR-DN81-BL.jpg
( Underneath will be amongst other things, the SN, and it is a good idea to note all this info : https://i.postimg.cc/4dzVVHvv/DVR-BN81-BL.jpg )

Broadly speaking we can define 3 main uses of our DVR,
_ (i) the most simple use of just a few cameras and a monitor connected directly to the DVR,
_ (ii) a more flexible use in some local network which could also include more than one DVR and the ability to view in several locations simultaneously, using one or more computers – the local way
_(iii) a similar usage to (ii) but with the ability to view remotely over the world wide web internet, that is to say, access the DVR or DVRs over the internet
We are mainly concerned in this Blog post with (iii) , but the computer PC software which allows us to do (ii) or (iii) ( Guarding Vision PC Client Software ) , is organised such that, whilst its not essential to organise (ii) in order to do (iii), it can simplify both the setting up and understanding of (iii) if we discuss and set up the (ii) usage.

DVR in simple and local use
_(i) DVR in simple use
When that DVR thing is connected to cameras and a monitor, the combination will work like a simple video surveillance system ( https://i.postimg.cc/R00X9dB3/DVR-Su...nce-System.jpg ) . In the very simplest use of our DVR, the Monitors are directly connected to the DVR as illustrated in that last screenshot, and would usually be close to the DVR, since the connecting cables are usually designed for just short distance connections.
That simple usage is fairly restrictive.

_(ii) DVR in Local use( making use of a modern internet Modem/ Router ‘s LAN function )
The simple usage is fairly restricted, and a slightly more useful system would allow for more flexibility on where the monitors are relative to the DVR, possibly also with the ability to access the same pictures from different locations, ( possibly with that also simultaneously)

Traditionally such systems may have been referred to as Closed-circuit television ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Closed-circuit_television ) Video surveillance system.
Earlier traditional systems would have been used in some closed local copper wiring system, (or using wireless systems operating over just a very small area), such as used as a security surveillance and crime prevention system in a single building or property or car park or airport etc, etc.. Our DVR can also be used in such a way via a LAN computer system , ( or in more recent years also in a local WLAN)
In a traditionally earlier LAN system, there would have likely been a large central computer, possibly referred to as a Server.
In more recent years, in many modern buildings and private houses the internet, ( in addition to the usually telephone line ) is available and the entering wires or cables will usually be connected firstly to some device of the “Router” or “modem” sort. Usually the main function of this device will be to separate and / or modify the signals coming into your house to be used on your telephone and any computers you have, but also, usually this device has a secondary function allowing it to be used in a similar way to the traditional LAN server. The Guarding Vision Software has been written to take good advantage of this, and it is therefore necessary, ( assuming you want option (ii) ), to connect via the DVR LAN socket with a LAN R45 Ethernet cable so connected between your Router/ modem and the DVR.
Mouse: ( Monitor menus )
( If you are only interested in option (i) , then there is no need to connect to your router. For this option any settings or adjustments or controlling is done via menus on the monitor screen which appear when you right click on the mouse, which should be connected. This mouse and the menu options are needed mostly for use of (i) , but it is also needed initially for the first set up of the DVR and the mouse and monitor menus are also possibly needed to do some things later when using options (ii) or (iii) )

Although whilst there is not a great technical step from (ii) to (iii) with the Guarding Vision Software, it has been organised in a somewhat cumbersome way, and it seems to not have been understood fully before the various documentation was written, resulting in confusing and mostly incorrect instructions.

_(iii) Remote Access ( via the internet )
The way that the remote access is obtained is not very obvious, and in fact, it is so cumbersome and complicated ( in my opinion unnecessarily ) , such that, at the time of me writing these notes, all available and published information and instructions are wrong
Two basic things are necessary for you to be able to access the DVR remotely with a PC
_ The DVR needs to have been enabled to allow this. ( This can be done during the initial first set up, or at a later date via settings using a monitor and mouse connected directly to the DVR ). This is fairly straight forward: A small box entitled , not surprisingly, “Enable” needs to be checked, and then a “verification code” of your choice given
_ You have certain information. This is the cumbersome complicated part: The information and knowledge that you need will vary depending on what has been done previously by yourself and others. Some things that need to be done can only be done once by one person, ( or one account ). It might mean that you need to know the DVR serial number and any verification code that has been given, or alternatively you may need to know the account logging in details of a registered user that has previously made available remote access: After that person has made the availability, it may not be possible for anyone else to make it available until that person removes ( Deletes ) its availability.

**DocAElstein** · 05-29-2016, 08:07 PM

Link to here : https://excelfox.com/forum/showthrea...ll=1#post15896 https://excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2769-P2P-Cloud-DVR-remote-Access-via-a-(remote)-PC-Using-Guarding-Vision-PC-Client-Software?p=15896&viewfull=1#post15897
https://excelfox.com/forum/showthrea...are1#post15897
https://excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2769-P2P-Cloud-DVR-remote-Access-via-a-(remote)-PC-Using-Guarding-Vision-PC-Client-Software#post15897

Here are the section Headings. They are written in a useful logical order. But I have also tried to make them as useful as possible to look up for help in doing the specific actions related to the specific heading title

Section Heading Titles:

Post #1

P2P Cloud DVR remote Access via a (remote) **Windows PC( or laptop or Notebook )**
Using Guarding Vision Microsoft Windows PC Client Software
Sannce DB81BL

( ** These notes are not intended to address any issues related to Mobil Phone use. There is no requirement to have a mobile phone when reading or applying any things discussed ).
https://excelfox.com/forum/showthrea...ll=1#post15896

Post #2
Other general background issues
https://excelfox.com/forum/showthrea...ll=1#post16051

Post #3
Summary simplest way to use DVR ( without PC ) _(i) DVR in simple use

Post #4 PC Use of accessing DVR

Summary second way to use DVR with a PC locally _(ii) DVR in Local use( making use of a modern internet Modem/ Router ‘s LAN function )

Summary of third way to use the DVR with a PC remotely_(iii) Remote Access ( via the internet )

https://excelfox.com/forum/showthrea...ll=1#post16053

Post #5
Section Heading Titles:
https://excelfox.com/forum/showthrea...ll=1#post15897

Post #6
_ 1 Using a Sannce DVR Model DN81BL for the first time, assuming you want to use it finally in conjunction with Guarding Vision Software to View the Cameras in Microsoft Windows on a PC Computer
https://excelfox.com/forum/showthrea...ll=1#post15898

Post #7
_ 1-0) Unpacking and quick set up.
https://excelfox.com/forum/showthrea...ll=1#post15899

Post #8

Typical set of screenshots and notes with emphasis on important points for our later reference:
( a.k.a. _ initial first “Monitor / Mouse - DVR quick set up process” _ working example )

https://excelfox.com/forum/showthrea...ll=1#post15900

Post #9

Review of username and password pairs so far
( and initial discussion of the 4 needed in total for successful Cloud P2P use on a PC) .

https://excelfox.com/forum/showthrea...ll=1#post16050

Post #10
_ 1-3) Install the Guarding vision to your computer. .
File to download, Guarding-Vision.exe and Guarding-Vision.zip
https://excelfox.com/forum/showthrea...ll=1#post15901

Post #11
_ 1-3) Install the Guarding vision to your computer. .
Installing from .exe file after download
https://excelfox.com/forum/showthrea...ll=1#post15902

Post #12
1-4). Run Guarding Vision software for the first time and register the administrator account.

https://excelfox.com/forum/showthrea...ll=1#post15903

Post #13
Importance of maintaining a working LAN connection to DVR for our demonstration and working example of setting up procedures
https://excelfox.com/forum/showthrea...ll=1#post16054

Post #14
1-4). Run Guarding Vision software for the first time and register the administrator ( “Super User” ) account
https://excelfox.com/forum/showthrea...ll=1#post16055

Post #15

2 Using DVR with a PC
Using PC Client software, Guarding Vision

Post #16

2a) LAN Access
( A Default device Type has been opened/selected automatically )

https://excelfox.com/forum/showthrea...ll=1#post15905

Post #17
Make Entry for Standard local Device - + Add an actual type to the standard type management presented to us by default
https://excelfox.com/forum/showthrea...ll=1#post15906

Post #18

Viewing cameras on Computer ( for first time )

https://excelfox.com/forum/showthrea...ll=1#post15907

Post #19

Post #20

Post #21
Step 2b: P2P Access
2b) Remote ( Cloud P2P ) Access of DVR over the internet with a PC using Guarding Vision Windows PC Client Software

https://excelfox.com/forum/showthrea...ll=1#post15910

Post #22

Some further discussions on account usernames and passwords, and preparation for Sannce P2P account Registration
(4th username / password pair ( and 2nd username / password pair ) )

https://excelfox.com/forum/showthrea...ll=1#post15911

Post #23
Advise of preparations for encountering 4th username/ password pair for the first time,
( the Sannce P2P account Registering process )

https://excelfox.com/forum/showthrea...ll=1#post16060

Post #24

Post #25

Post #26

Remote ( Cloud P2P ) Access of DVR over the internet with a PC using Guarding Vision Windows PC Client Software,
2b) -A- ______ Following on from previously obtaining LAN local access, and
Adding ( making available ) DVR for remote Cloud use for the first time: DVR is not yet Registered for P2P remote Access

https://excelfox.com/forum/showthrea...ll=1#post15912

Post #27

Register Sannce P2P Account

First Registration of an account for the.. …. Annke Sannce Registered Vision Guarding Vision Cloud P2P App Account User Name and Password by Email Address ….
https://excelfox.com/forum/showthrea...ll=1#post15913

Post #28
Make Entry for Cloud P2P Device( -A- DVR still LAN connected)
https://excelfox.com/forum/showthrea...ll=1#post15914

Post #29
To summarise the situation as it now stands, regarding P2P Cloud remote access. ( after Adding successfully a particular Cloud P2P Device (cloudp2pee). )
https://excelfox.com/forum/showthrea...ll=1#post15915

Post #30

(Logout and) Login with Sannce P2P account to import

https://excelfox.com/forum/showthrea...ll=1#post15916

Post #31

-AB- Notes in preparation for full remote Cloud P2P DVR access , Installing, Setting up and using at remote location. ( No direct Access to DVR )

https://excelfox.com/forum/showthrea...ll=1#post15917

Post #32

-B- Cloud P2P remote access if you know the password and username of Sannce registered account holding DVR P2P relevant information

https://excelfox.com/forum/showthrea...ll=1#post15918

Post #33

-C- Cloud P2P remote access if no Sannce registered account holds DVR information
Possible Problem! Need to remove details of DVR from Sannce registered devices

https://excelfox.com/forum/showthrea...ll=1#post15919

Post #34
-C-

Cloud P2P remote access if no Sannce registered account holds DVR information.

Prepare Sannce account registering details.
https://excelfox.com/forum/showthrea...ll=1#post15920

Post #35
https://excelfox.com/forum/showthrea...ll=1#post15921

Some random working examples

Post #51
https://excelfox.com/forum/showthrea...age6#post15937
https://excelfox.com/forum/showthrea...ll=1#post15937
Example of 2b) -B- Cloud P2P remote access if you know the password and username of Sannce registered account holding DVR P2P relevant information
Main Thread notes: https://excelfox.com/forum/showthrea...ll=1#post15918

**DocAElstein** · 06-26-2016, 10:27 PM

Link to here : https://excelfox.com/forum/showthrea...l=1#post158968 https://excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2769-P2P-Cloud-DVR-remote-Access-via-a-(remote)-PC-Using-Guarding-Vision-PC-Client-Software?p=15896&viewfull=1#post15898
https://excelfox.com/forum/showthrea...are1#post15898
https://excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2769-P2P-Cloud-DVR-remote-Access-via-a-(remote)-PC-Using-Guarding-Vision-PC-Client-Software#post15898

https://excelfox.com/forum/showthrea...5898#post15898

_ 1 Using a Sannce DVR Model DN81BL for the first time, assuming you want to use it finally in conjunction with Guarding Vision Software to View the Cameras in Microsoft Windows on a PC Computer

Here are listed some of the things that you will need initially, either as supplied with the DVR, or you should prepare or obtain

a computer Monitor with a VGA cable,
or
a Television that can be used as a monitor with either a VGA cable or HDMI cable

at least one camera that is compatible with the DVR and capable of being connected to the DVR

a mouse to connect to the DVR

Some means of making notes, possibly some means of taking pictures for later use and reference
Make some reliable copies of all the information on any identifying label, typically underneath, in particular a 9 character serial number which will have a form something like this
F53992124

Very important, ( not initially for the initial set up or simple use , (i) ) , for later use is to have a working strong internet connection to the LAN socket via a LAN RJ45 Ethernet cable to your Router or modem, https://i.postimg.cc/wMbWK1Wm/Router...o-computer.jpg .
If you have a successful working internet connection, the furthest most green of the lights at the front , https://i.postimg.cc/1tkMmkGW/DVR-BN...t-internet.jpg , of the DVR should flicker on., https://i.postimg.cc/W3ggnhZn/Right-...g-Internet.jpg . The brightness of this light gives an approximate indication of the strength of the signal. If you have no green light or just a weak dim light, you might consider changing the LAN RJ45 Ethernet cable , possibly to a shorter one. It is worth checking this at an early stage, in case you find it necessary to place the DVR close to your modem or router so as to allow you to use as short a cable as possible in order to improve the chances of getting a good strong connection. My experience suggests that the DVRs from Sannce require a better and stronger LAN internet connection than most average computers and other devices do. I have also had two DVRs fail / become defect/ useless , at least as far as using (ii) or (iii) is concerned, when they no longer reacted to any working LAN connection ( https://support.sannce.com/hc/en-us/requests/1492131 )

Other things, of important for the later sections will be mentioned in the next section which has some poor quality photographs of a typical unpacking and quick set up that I have actually done.

**DocAElstein** · 10-23-2016, 02:19 PM

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_ 1-0) Unpacking and quick set up.
You can probably rely on any supplied “Quick Start Guide” or “Quick Operation Guide” , at least in the early sections: Later sections are generalised and may not accurately give the information you need.
My only assumption at this stage is that either you, or someone, can get as far as, or has already got as far as , unpacking the DVR and any things like cameras, mouse, power supply etc. that comes with, and had got as far connecting cameras, or at least one camera initially, to the DVR and connecting the DVR to a monitor.
Getting that far is about as much as you can rely on for accurate help with any supplied instructions to help you to do, or most of the YouTube tutorials on the subject.

**DocAElstein** · 01-30-2017, 04:58 AM

Copy originally of Post #5
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https://excelfox.com/forum/showthrea...are1#post15900
https://excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2769-P2P-Cloud-DVR-remote-Access-via-a-(remote)-PC-Using-Guarding-Vision-PC-Client-Software#post158900

This Post #6 copied from the last post #5 is
https://excelfox.com/forum/showthrea...ll=1#post16050 https://excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2769-P2P-Cloud-DVR-remote-Access-via-a-(remote)-PC-Using-Guarding-Vision-PC-Client-Software?p=16050&viewfull=1#post16050
https://excelfox.com/forum/showthrea...are1#post16050
https://excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2769-P2P-Cloud-DVR-remote-Access-via-a-(remote)-PC-Using-Guarding-Vision-PC-Client-Software#post16050

https://excelfox.com/forum/showthrea...6050#post16050

Review of username and password pairs so far
( and initial discussion of the 4 needed in total for successful Cloud P2P use on a PC) .

Because we have a few different username and password pairs to consider , and the order in which they are made is rather cumbersome , it is worth making a quick review of the username and password pairs made so far.

We have done 2 so far. ( In total later we will have done 4 )

I will use the actual values which I am using in the working worked example, so as to help demonstrate and help to avoid confusion.
The only significance to the number in which I have ordered them, is that they are in the order that you might typically encounter then for the first time.

The two name and password pairs made so far:

__ Name and password pair by first time DVR with Monitor, and needed in later LAN use on a computer
So far we have made one that was necessary at the time to make.
This was compulsory to make at the start of the initial set up when using the DVR for the first time from new.
It made it possible to set up the simplest use of the DVR using the basic components of at least one camera, a monitor and the DVR. ( A mouse was also necessary to have connected to the DVR, so as to add the first username and password pair via a menu on the monitor. This was the example values for username and password that I chose
admin
Sannce.!*
We have noted that we also need to use this same username and password pair later, in order to make it possible to make available in software on a PC for local LAN usage.
( We had the chance to choose the username, but we left it at the default admin )

___ User name and password pair needed in later making DVR available for remote CloudP2P use
During that initial set up, towards the end, we effectively made a second username and password pair. But it was not very obvious what or why we had to do that, and in fact we only made the password!:- We don’t not have a choice of the username and it is in fact the serial number, SN , of the DVR. For the DVR that I am using for the worked example, the serial number on a label underneath I have noted as
F539921254
The password is referred to as a Verification Code , and I expect only God knows why. Maybe I will know why at a later date. At the time of me writing this, nobody walking this planet knows why.
I chose , ( based on my experience of what sort of words work consistently ) the word Sannce2 for this “verification code”
The combination of the serial number and the verification code was then effectively
F53992124
Sannce2
Only as a result of my experience in finally successfully using these DVR systems do I know what this username and password pair is all about:
We need to use this username and password pair later in software to make available the Cloud P2P remote access of the DVR via the internet.

The other 2 needed user name and password pair ( We will meet these later )

I will mention here briefly the other two name and password pairs needed, but they will be discussed in more detail as and when we encounter them in the coarse of the later discussions and explanations

____ A simple user name and password ( for the administrator account, ) is required to log in to any installed Guarding Vision PC Client software, ( it will be prompted for by first running of the software ) I call this the 3rd username and password pair simply because it is the third typically encountered. It is probably the simplest and most obvious one to understand. Also, you would typically check a box to allow automatic login when you run the Guarding Vision Software, so you might rarely need to concern yourself with it after the time you set it.

_____ A rather difficult to explain or name, user name and password required to be registered with Sannce / Annke which allows for the exclusive Adding / making available of DVR devices . It is related to, and often needed in conjunction with the 2nd __ username and password pair needed in later making DVR available for remote CloudP2P use .

It is very easy to get these all mixed up, especially as it is not at all clear or well understood how when and why the cumbersome use is organised. This confusion is one of the main reasons that I have had to spend so much time on the issues.

**DocAElstein** · 01-30-2017, 04:58 AM

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https://excelfox.com/forum/showthrea...are1#post15900
https://excelfox.com/forum/showthread.php/2769-P2P-Cloud-DVR-remote-Access-via-a-(remote)-PC-Using-Guarding-Vision-PC-Client-Software#post158900

Typical set of screenshots and notes with emphasis on important points for our later reference:
( a.k.a. _ initial first “Monitor / Mouse - DVR quick set up process” _ working example )

Before we start, some important point to be aware of, in particular the first introduction to the trick username and passwords that you will encounter in the course of using the DVR , an the the Guarding Vision PC client Software..
There are a number of different User names and passwords and other verification words or codes and serial numbers needed. It is very easy to get confused. There are also a number of problems and bugs associated with some of these.
I would therefore recommend only using or changing passwords and usernames if absolutely necessary, use any default values if possible, and , at least initially, try to use the same simple passwords and user names as much as possible. This will increase your chances of getting things up and running successfully. Possibly later you could then change and or add more complicated usernames and passwords, if desired for security reasons.

You will be prompted early on for a User Name and Password which is required for you
_ to get at settings in the DVR via the Monitor and the mouse.
_ and this same User Name and Password is usually required when setting up the LAN access ( our discussed way (ii) ) use of the DVR on a computer via the Guarding Vision Software . This could be considered a “local network pair” of username and password, since it is required for öocal access of the DVR, either via settings got at by right clicking on the mouse when viewing the monitor, or a computer as long as it is connected to the same local network as the DVR.
Because this password and username is asked for very early on, I tend to refer to it as the 1st username and password pair. In literature, and the people at Sannce, often refer to the password in this username and password pair as the password you set when you used the DVR for the first time.

In the same screen shot that you “set the password when you use the DVR for the first time”, you will be asked for an Email to Reset Password. Important here is to use a reliable Email address, that is to say, one which is in regular use or to which you have regular reliable access.
Make a good few back up notes of what you enter.
I have noticed some strange errors and bugs when using Upper Case characters for various DVR passwords, so I would recommend using lower case, and better still, for this particular password I would recommend leaving it at the default of admin
Passwords and usernames introduce problems, some strange lingering ones that re appear later , if they are added slowly or if they introduce any error message. So it is always important to have a good and correct ( password only in this case ) prepared beforehand. I tend to keep a text file, .txt , or a Word File, .doc , with all my passwords and usernames in.

This is a typical reliably working pair that I have often used.
admin
Sannce.!*

You will have the option later in a screenshot of an “Enable” check box which you should check, and then agree to some conditions which come up, and then set an associated “Verification Code”
You will be required to give this “Verification Code” when setting up ( Adding ) remote access availability. This is part of an identifying code for a particular DVR, but I personally tend to use the same Verification Code for all my DVRs, at least initially, to help reduce the confusion resulting from the various different passwords and usernames flying around all over the place. ( I have found something of the form of Sannce2 a consistently reliable “verification code” )
Usually this will be required along with the 9 character serial number, SN . and typically you are asked to give it in a typical two entry window , so you could regard the following as a typical remote access equivalent of the the “local network pair” of username and password. So this following we could refer to as one of my typical “remote P2P access pair”
In the course of all my notes I often refer to this pair as the 2nd password and username pair
F53992124
Sannce2
So we could refer to this as the “remote network pair” of username and password , as it effectively allows us to get access across the internat. This username and password pair is needed in one way of the 3 advanced remote internet PC access of the DVR, ( way –C- ), and the password is needed for another , (way –A-). The other way , -B- does not need it only because it would have been used previously when logged into a “Sannce P2P account” , and we will need to know that 4th username and password pair

The whole business of understanding the 4 sets of username and password pairs is very tricky. At important points I re summarise the situation regarding the various usernames and passwords.

Typical set up sequence of screenshots
On initial power up, a few screens are gone through typically taking a few seconds, ending in a screen allowing you to select a language from a drop down list
https://i.postimg.cc/NMc7Z6BV/1-Start-Black-Screen.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/JhJ5T6VZ/2-Sannce-White-Screen.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/jSvDRyHm/3-English-language.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/8C2NGC0x/3-Most...lue-Ribbon.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/q7h4WKj8/4-Afte...n-Language.jpg
Then we must give the information for the “local network pair” of username and password. We add the information using the mouse
https://i.postimg.cc/13YyWBcm/5-admin.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/3xwKCVGf/6-Password-Sannce.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/c4hx30v8/7-Password-Sannce.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/ncpVMChJ/8-EMail.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/66d59dwc/9-E-Mail.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/zvSJ01p6/11-Next.jpg
Then we have the opportunity to set a pattern that is asked for later if we wish to quickly re access the various DVR settings ,
https://i.postimg.cc/cCNxRJ7f/12-Unlock-Pattern.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/C18Mn88F/13-Unlock-Pattern.jpg
( This is done via options appearing in a blue upper ribbon ( https://i.postimg.cc/fLB4LjWt/Leter-...per-ribbon.jpg ) , via the monitor , after a right click of the mouse. ( The right mouse click later will then show this https://i.postimg.cc/qRkV4ZrH/Mouse-...ck-pattern.jpg ).This access allows us later to change any of the settings that we are setting here initially in the first power up.
( A tip to remember for later should this pattern not be recognised: You can click on Switch User bottom right which will then allow you to use the “local network pair” of username and password https://i.postimg.cc/TPjv8vZc/Switch...ck-pattern.jpg )
In the next window, the time Can be adjusted https://i.postimg.cc/fbpTbCJ2/14-Set-Time.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/PqP5h9rv/15-Set-Time.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/0ytyTPxq/16-Nex-t.jpg
In the next window there should already be information collected automatically related to the working LAN internet connection.
https://i.postimg.cc/YC2SDj53/17-Network-Adress.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/c4BHcfbC/18-Network-Address.jpg
If there is no information there, or it is greyed out, then that may indicate that the DVR is not receiving any internet signal or it may indicate that the signal is not strong enough.
( These figures are related to the address of the DVR as assigned by your computer LAN network router/modem system.
Usually you do not need to concern yourself with these figures, although the top most number is an important and could change after a long period of time, especially if you do not use the DVR for a long period and/ or other devices are connected to your router / modem Netwirk system in the meantime. Such things might resulting in any DVR that is made available to LAN access no longer working because , in simplified terms, something somewhere will be looking in the wrong place / looking at the wrong address.
It does no harm to note those numbers, then if you later have problems with the LAN access, you can go into the settings via the mouse and monitor and check / compare the address being shown there with the previous used address. It is not clear or consistent as to whether the addresses re adjust themselves automatically. Sometime they may, sometime they may not and you may need to adjust or re set something to effectively make the necessary change.
)

The next screenshot window is associated in a rather unobvious , cumbersome, indirect war to the important “remote P2P Cloud access pair” of user name and password
( The effective user name is not shown – that is the serial number typically on a sticker on the underside of the DVR. I gave the example for one of my DVRs as F53992124 )
The effective password for remote access is what is often referred to as the “Verification Code”, as shown in the screenshots:
https://i.postimg.cc/RVBhfgG2/21-Verification-Code.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/zDW3Vswn/22-Ver...e-to-terms.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/SRWK39QZ/23-Verification-Code.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/Gt02XKR8/24-Ver...de-Sannce2.jpg

In those last screenshots I have personally chosen the password of Sannce2. That is just my personal choice. It is a character combination that has reliably and consistently worked for me as the “verification code”. You may try a different character combinations as you wish. But make sure you keep a note somewhere of both the serial number and the verification code.
( Sometimes this “Verification Code” might be referred to as the “Sannce Home Verification Code” - But that can confuse by being mixed up with another user name an password pair which we have not yet discussed, the “ Annke Sannce Registered Vision Guarding Vision Cloud P2P App Account User Name and Password by Email Address “ )
Following my worked example, my “remote P2P Cloud access pair” of user name and password which we will need later is, based on those last screenshots:
F53992124
Sannce2
, where as explained , the F53992124 is the serial number, SN, taken from a sticker on the underneath of the actual DVR that I have been using in the course of preparing these notes

The last two screenshots in this initial “Monitor / Mouse - DVR set up process” are not of concern to us at this stage, and I simply skip over them
https://i.postimg.cc/d1Z3RXbc/25-Pen...-skip-over.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/s2N1hy0J/26-Last-skip-over.jpg

Finally, if all has gone well, then after passing the last screenshot, the monitor screen should “spring into life”
https://i.postimg.cc/MGTvHXtT/27-Springs-into-life.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/fWrMWkS1/Spring...e-at-Night.jpg
27 Springs into life.JPG Springs into Life at Night.JPG

**DocAElstein** · 02-03-2017, 07:13 PM

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_ 1-3) Install the Guarding vision to your computer. .
File to download, Guarding-Vision.exe and Guarding-Vision.zip

I do not have a lot of experience with different versions of the guarding Vision Software. So I always use the same .exe file for constancy. The file I obtained from section 1-3) at this link,
https://support.sannce.com/hc/en-us/...arding-Vision-
http://support.annke.com/document/HK...ing-Vision.exe
, about 3 years a ago. I have used the file for many instillations on various computers with Windows versions XP, Vista, Windows 7, Windows 10
So far I have always had consistent results.
Here are the links to some cloud places where I have stored that file.
I would recommend that when you think you have a clean and stable reliable download of the .exe file, that you store it safely at a few place and , for consistent results, always use that file to do any installations.

Guarding-Vision.exe https://app.box.com/s/fi3eumo8m6sq8tztlxgheftuxqtq5f5b ( app box com )
Guarding-Vision.zip and Guarding-Vision.exe https://www.magentacloud.de/share/mj-nzeibqb#$/ ( German Telekom Magenta Cloud )
Guarding-Vision.exe https://www.magentacloud.de/share/8q-xvuy4q2#$/ ( German Telekom Magenta Cloud )
Guarding - Vision – exe.exe https://www.magentacloud.de/share/eyvt7rapl1#$/ ( German Telekom Magenta Cloud )
Guarding-Vision.zip : https://www.magentacloud.de/lnk/0SABjkrU ( German Telekom Magenta CLOUD )
Guarding-Vision.exe : https://drive.google.com/file/d/1p_I...?usp=drive_web ( Google Drive )
Guarding-Vision.zip : https://drive.google.com/file/d/1xk6...?usp=drive_web ( Google Drive )

( I made the .zip files myself , from the .exe file, using windows explorer:
https://i.postimg.cc/BbqwjpJ9/Right-...e-zip-file.jpg )

Downloading the file is usually simple and quick
https://i.postimg.cc/L8TgYyXD/Downloading.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/FHmJKt91/Show-In-Folder.jpg
If all goes well with the download, then you should end up with a file of around 200MB - 210MB
https://i.postimg.cc/9Q8FHs06/Proper...n-exe-file.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/HLrWY37V/Proper...n-exe-file.jpg

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